Antonio Conte - Manager - Siena (28 Viewers)

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da_ledgeaun

The Juve Freak
Jun 2, 2007
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The only way that I would be satisfied with a coach with the experience like Conte has,or anyone lesser than winning the CL is Moggi..if Moggi can be the master for Mercato and other boardroom businesses,then someone like Conte could at least make us challenge for Scudetto or 3rd place at the very least..
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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So your hiring a coach because you hope he will turn out like someone else:lol: BTW Allegri got calgliari to ninth and was voted best coach in serie A for two seasons in a row, btw Conte has never even manged in a top flight league, and when he did, he got sacked cause he floped:tup:
thats not even the point, allegri isnt even that great of a manager the point is a manager can only do so well with the squad he has. you could have had wenger, fergusson, mourinho coaching our team last season and we would have had similar results.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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Nothing this bad though.The squad is really bad but the manager hold a lot of blame as well.

I haven't been following Conte that much (except for a few games with Atlanta and some News), for the guys that have been following him closely. How is his approach with the players ? And how do his past players view him ?
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
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how many were penalty or free kick

and please, its spain
true, but it's also Atletico Madrid :D

Aguero has done very well considering the unstable situation at Atletico - a new coach every 9-10 months.
Considering how he's done in the "big" games with this Atletico and that he is still merely 22 yo, I'd say Aguero is one of the few precious assets available on the market ...
One can certainly argue if he's worth those 45 mil of buy out clause but if you guys can bring it down to 35 mil by including some players like Sissoko, Aguero can be a gem of a signing.

thats not even the point, allegri isnt even that great of a manager the point is a manager can only do so well with the squad he has. you could have had wenger, fergusson, mourinho coaching our team last season and we would have had similar results.
I wouldn't be so quick to judge - Allegri is still a learning process but has done very, very well so far and a lot of people are not giving him the credit he deserves for this scudetto. Sure he got Ibra and Robinho on top of what Leonardo had but it was Allegri who made a bunch of players into a pretty tight and tactically disciplined unit and gave them the spirit and mentality necessary to overcome all those injuries in mid-season - when Milan barely had 11 healthy players for quite a stretch - as well as Ibra's antics towards the end of the season, which was key in securing the scudetto. Sure, he has his shortcomings but for a coach as young and as inexperienced on the big scene as he is, he's done pretty darn well ... and expect will improve even further.

As for those coaches not doing any better than Del Neri with that line-up, let's not forget that it was Del Neri who made the line-up in the first place and wanted all those Pepes and Martinezes and what not while at the same time got rid of Trez, Giovinco and Diego.

Those you mentioned may not have been able to win CL with this Juve team but they certainly would have done better than 7th place in a rather weak Serie A. The biggest difference between provincial-mentality coaches like Del Neri and those great managers you mentioned, is the ability to be good psychologists and get the players motivated, play for each other as a unit, and give their very best on the field ... sure tactics play a role but not as important as one may think, it is the ability to be a good psychologist that makes up for most of the difference between an average manager and a great one ... tactics is mostly textbook stuff, which you can read about or just go watch a game or two and know most of the secrets of the opponent - it's not like there is a new, profoundly different tactical system invented every other week or so; basically, as long as one has a bit better than average intelligence, tactics can figured out and adjusted on the run ... the fact that Del Neri, given his age and experience, is so stubborn and unable to adjust his tactics and general approach when it's obvious they don't work, speaks volumes for his qualities as a manger.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Del Neri isn't a better manager than anybody for that matter. His "experience" is meaningless considering the entire team choked when "experience" was needed during and after certain matches. So I'd take Conte over him for sure.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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As for those coaches not doing any better than Del Neri with that line-up, let's not forget that it was Del Neri who made the line-up in the first place and wanted all those Pepes and Martinezes and what not while at the same time got rid of Trez, Giovinco and Diego.
That's not how I remember it.

When Delneri first joined he said he thought Trezeguet-Diego was his best front two.

I got the impression Delneri had a fairly limited say on Juve's mercato, other than it being clear he wanted to play 4-4-2.

Entirely possible my memory is playing tricks on me, though.
 

acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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That's not how I remember it.

When Delneri first joined he said he thought Trezeguet-Diego was his best front two.

I got the impression Delneri had a fairly limited say on Juve's mercato, other than it being clear he wanted to play 4-4-2.
I remeber those words too but that was in the summer games when the mercato was still in full swing, so I wouldn't take those words seriously ... the end result is what matters, and what it tells us is that those words held as much weight as a fart in the wind.
Also, considering how tight the Marotta-Del Neri duo is, I honestly doubt Marotta did all thos estupid moves on his own without Del Neri's approval, or as I suspect, the mercato was, for the most part, Del Neri's doing.
 

Flamez

Senior Member
Feb 7, 2011
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Can anyone tell me if he got any his teams relegated when he was coaching in Serie A?

yes let sell the whole team and buy a new one without any cash this isn't FM :p
chiellini is good and he would smash carvalho out of RM starting eleven :stuckup:
He would smash Pepe, not Carvalho. Carvalho returned to the top with his reunion with Mou.

Pique and Carvalho atm are the best defenders around imo.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Can anyone tell me if he got any his teams relegated when he was coaching in Serie A?


He would smash Pepe, not Carvalho. Carvalho returned to the top with his reunion with Mou.

Pique and Carvalho atm are the best defenders around imo.
I think David Luiz will surpass them both in two years at most. Guy's the complete package.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
Have we sealed this deal yet? Can't wait for him to officially join us and set Serie A on fire with our football.
 

Delle Alpi

Chemical Dean
May 26, 2009
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Ranieri is a better coach than Conte and he wasn't good enough back then. Even after coming in 2nd place, and losing to Chelsea on aggregate in the 2nd round of CL after a great 2-2 game at home. This project has always been heading down hill
 
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