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Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
Sorry Z, I think you have to be rooted for the latest Swype version :(

Hopefully they'll update the open beta with the latest features soon.
Thanks gray :)


Anyways, my O2X has just arrived in the post and waiting for me to pick it up.


I'm usually good with technology (pick up things really quick), but I'm new to Android so I have a few questions for you experts, as I'm still a bit unsure how to work with the phone (rooting, custom mods, etc) because of the warranty. I'm a student so I need the warranty if something happens to the phone :D


Anyways, I understood that rooting is not the same as a cutom rom. Rooting is basically hacking the phone to get more access to it, right? How dangerous is it to the phone? Is it safer than a custom rom?

What will rooting the phone allow me to do? If I need to send the phone in for repair can I unroot it?

About custom roms, I've been reading a few forums (xda), and as far as I can see the best custom rom is cm7, but it also has a few issues (no stable version yet), for example no fm radio, which is something I use frequently. They also say the latest stock is stable and ok, so I think I'll just wait for the LG official GB update.

How dangerous is flashing a custom rom? I've never done that before, so I'm still a bit reserved about it.
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
How difficult was the installation?
It wasn't difficult at all. Just had to copy some files over and change the permissions.

Sorry, the "posting a link is against the rules" was from when I posted this on another forum. It's ok here :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?xa3ofbvbg8olxc4

Code:
YOU NEED:
1. Filesystem Explorer-Root Explorer or whatever else that can access root and change permissions.
2. Terminal Emulator

If you have Swype already installed it'd be best to remove all traces of it by going into System/Apps and deleting Swype.apk and into System/Lib and removing libswypecore.so(Some similar name) and then rebooting your phone.

1. Move Swype.apk to System/App and change the permissions to 644
USER: Read Write 
GROUP: Read 
OTHER: Read 

2. Move libswypecore.3.25.91.30637.so to System/Lib and change the permissions to 644
USER: Read Write 
GROUP: Read 
OTHER: Read
 
Now back out of your file manager or check to see if the permission changes stuck. It should read rw-r--r-- on both.

Open up Terminal Emulator and enter:
code
su 
sync 
reboot
Anyways, I understood that rooting is not the same as a cutom rom. Rooting is basically hacking the phone to get more access to it, right?
Right.

How dangerous is it to the phone? Is it safer than a custom rom?
Once a phone has been out for a little while, the rooting methods that get released are relatively safe. With popular phones that have been on the market for some time, the rooting method will often be an installable app or "connect your phone to your computer and press one button".

What will rooting the phone allow me to do? If I need to send the phone in for repair can I unroot it?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/distm/allwhy_should_i_root_here_is_why/

Yep, it's possible to unroot, but generally that won't be necessary for getting your phone repaired.

About custom roms, I've been reading a few forums (xda), and as far as I can see the best custom rom is cm7, but it also has a few issues (no stable version yet), for example no fm radio, which is something I use frequently. They also say the latest stock is stable and ok, so I think I'll just wait for the LG official GB update.
Stock roms are stable of course, but they're limited in terms of functionality and optimisation. CM7 is called 'not stable', but it's by no means... unstable. There are lots of good roms out there. If you look on this page, the most popular roms will have the most views. One of those should be a safe bet.

How dangerous is flashing a custom rom? I've never done that before, so I'm still a bit reserved about it.
Rooting and installing a custom recovery is really the dangerous part. After you've done that, flashing a custom rom really isn't dangerous at all, since you can always fall back on the recovery (hence the name :D)
 

Zlatan

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2003
23,049
It wasn't difficult at all. Just had to copy some files over and change the permissions.

Sorry, the "posting a link is against the rules" was from when I posted this on another forum. It's ok here :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?xa3ofbvbg8olxc4

Code:
YOU NEED:
1. Filesystem Explorer-Root Explorer or whatever else that can access root and change permissions.
2. Terminal Emulator

If you have Swype already installed it'd be best to remove all traces of it by going into System/Apps and deleting Swype.apk and into System/Lib and removing libswypecore.so(Some similar name) and then rebooting your phone.

1. Move Swype.apk to System/App and change the permissions to 644
USER: Read Write 
GROUP: Read 
OTHER: Read 

2. Move libswypecore.3.25.91.30637.so to System/Lib and change the permissions to 644
USER: Read Write 
GROUP: Read 
OTHER: Read
 
Now back out of your file manager or check to see if the permission changes stuck. It should read rw-r--r-- on both.

Open up Terminal Emulator and enter:
code
su 
sync 
reboot

Right.


Once a phone has been out for a little while, the rooting methods that get released are relatively safe. With popular phones that have been on the market for some time, the rooting method will often be an installable app or "connect your phone to your computer and press one button".


http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/distm/allwhy_should_i_root_here_is_why/

Yep, it's possible to unroot, but generally that won't be necessary for getting your phone repaired.


Stock roms are stable of course, but they're limited in terms of functionality and optimisation. CM7 is called 'not stable', but it's by no means... unstable. There are lots of good roms out there. If you look on this page, the most popular roms will have the most views. One of those should be a safe bet.


Rooting and installing a custom recovery is really the dangerous part. After you've done that, flashing a custom rom really isn't dangerous at all, since you can always fall back on the recovery (hence the name :D)

Great gray, thanks for the answer :thup:


BTW, a custom rom and rooting will void your warranty? And is the risk really that big or does it only happen rarely that you brick the phone when flashing a custom rom?


P.S. Whyt I meant with "can I unroot the phone before sending it for repair" is can I do it so that they dont figure out I did it and thus keep my warranty? :)
 

gray

Senior Member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2003
30,260
I'm not exactly sure, to be honest. It's possible that you can void your warranty, but I'd say that the benefits of rooting + custom ROM far outweigh the risk :)

The risk of bricking is quite small, because the phones are pretty much identical and the developers test their solutions a lot before releasing them into the wild. Still, it's a good idea to read through forum threads to see what kind of issues people report, and ALWAYS read the warnings and instructions before you touch anything.

Yep, I understood why you were interested in unrooting, and I was saying that it probably won't be necessary to do so. Then again, it might be safer just in case they try to blame custom software for hardware faults.
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
The last time I took my Desire in to the service center, I took a Nandroid Backup, installed the RUU and then sent it for repairs. After I got it back, I rooted the phone again(a breeze thanks to UnrEVOked) and restored the Nandroid backup. :D
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
Yo Gray, I'm trying to move those 2 Swype files to /system using ES File Explorer with Root permissions, but it's just not moving. Tried pushing from ADB, but it says there is no free space. I remembered to mount /system as writeable. What am I doing wrong?

EDIT: Nevermind. I got it working.... somehow.
 

Juve Fanatico

Senior Member
Aug 20, 2010
3,676
HTC recently released a Bootloader unlocker utility that should enable you to root the phone. Though right now it only supports the Sensation, I think it should eventually support the IS. But regardless of root, the IS is a much better device.
I just found out about Revolutionary, which is an S-Off tool that supports the IS.
Well, IS it is, then. I'll come back for rooting instructions when I get the phone. :)

Thanks, Sheik. :tup:
 

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