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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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But isn't this what we asked for? We were all tired of the pragmatic approach because we were never going to win in Europe with it?
i want my pragmatism back.

and also some useful players instead of all the overpaid rabiot's who doesn't even know how honored they should feel to wear this fucking jersey.

seriously, what do we have now? after 4 rounds, we at least had an illusion. now we have a one-dimensional team, zero organization, the worst defense i've seen from any juve team in 30 years, and a coach looking gorgeous in a suit. no doubt i'd take pragmatism over this.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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classic 4-3-3. keep it simple. stick your best players in the positions they are best suited for.
This is all i asked, and then in the first 3 games the reality was this shite we are seeing
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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When Allegri took over from Conte, he didn’t change too much and we were playing a 3/5/2 still. We gradually worked towards his preferred formation a 4/3/1/2 throughout the season. When Sarri took over we still played in the same 4/4/2-ish shape that Allegri had left us with and he didn’t even try any major changes the first few months (failed terribly at it later on).

Without pre-season changing the entire tactics and philosophy of the football is foolish. It shows the lack of experience.
Soo much this. Pirlo didn't have anything out of the ordinary to do.

Just continue the 4 3 3 formation and accommodate the new players gradually in the team with Arthur instead of Pjanic.
Drill them from there.

Try your thesis on weaker teams at the allianz first and see how the players respond to it.

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chiesa-morata-ronaldo

classic 4-3-3. keep it simple. stick your best players in the positions they are best suited for.
Almost the best formation. I would change benta with Arthur.
Sadly it's not going to happen.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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It's not Pirlo's fault. He didn't have any coaching experience prior to Juve.
People may not want to hear it but it's the truth

Or Nedved and Paratici wanted to replace Allegri
Not ghana happen

Sarri also presided over our lowest pt total, worst goal differential, and most embarrassing CL exit since Conte in group stage in 2014. Last season was a joke, and Sarri should never have been appointed. We had a top coach and replaced him with a complete bum, and then replaced the bum with a guy who hadn’t coached a single game. Disastrous 2 years from management of this club.



Give Allegri this current squad and we win domestic double easy and are top CL contenders.
This

When Pirlo will be replaced, he will be replaced by an even worse coach, most probably Tudor...
Not Italian

they are not supposed to run the club mate, it's all on agnelli. i lol'd when i read those rumors in the italian press (la veritá of the 30th december, i have the article somewhere, it was quoted by a bunch of sites including calciomercato and tuttojuve iirc) about aa wanting to manage ferrari, losing interest in juve and getting annoyed by the financial difficulties in football, but it makes sense. firing marotta, firing allegri, appointing sarri and pirlo all were terrible calls. the only one that made sense was sacking sarri, but he should have picked a much more experienced coach instead of pirlo.
this is where i disagree with you. it's entirely possible that AA delegated decision making to those two as most firms do. iirc it was reported that those two had issues with max. iirc it was also reported that AA always had a great rapport with max. does the blame fall at the president's feet? yes. but we all know the truth here. those two morons aren't qualified for their respective positions. the club's management needs to be recycled just as much as the coach and the squad.

Wasn’t it Ronaldo who had turned against Allegri? Dybs didn’t like Allegri either I think.
This would be news to me
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
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Should be sacked, the ship is sinking fast and if a new manager comes in and fails at least we tried to save it.

10 in a row is a once in a century opportunity.
Scudetto is gone.

We need to refocus to get in the top 4 and try to get as far as possible in the CL. With Pirlo in charge I would have doubts about both.
 

Juve_fanatic

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Apr 5, 2006
7,618
I dont understand why Arthur didnt play? Cause of the 120 minutes against Genoa? He could have gotten at least 25/30 minutes today. Playing a slow, static midfield against a motivated, physical and lively inter midfield was a very bad move.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Speak for yourself.

It got us to two finals btw.
It had us at 1-1 in the second half of both finals, before superior quality of opposing sides took over, especially in Cardiff. It’s amazing that people thought we had to change our style completely to win CL after we came so close twice in 3 years under Max.

Management supports Max and builds the team for him after Cardiff, we’d have played more finals in the past 4 years, and possibly have won one in my opinion. Instead, we just floated along post-Cardiff, ignoring our weaknesses.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
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...this is where i disagree with you. it's entirely possible that AA delegated decision making to those two as most firms do. iirc it was reported that those two had issues with max. iirc it was also reported that AA always had a great rapport with max. does the blame fall at the president's feet? yes. but we all know the truth here. those two morons aren't qualified for their respective positions. the club's management needs to be recycled just as much as the coach and the squad...
even if he did, it's on him.

also, nothing indicates that nedved made those calls. aa himself publicly took the responsibility for allegri's sack, and explained the decision for the press. aa personally traveled to baku to see sarri. agnelli presented pirlo, he explained the managerial changes when marotta's contract wasnt't renewed, etc. meanwhile nedved only represents the club on cl draws and some minor events. for me, it's still a show ran by agnelli.

:boh:
 
Aug 2, 2005
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Hope he realized alresdy that even with 9 titles in row.
Not winning is not tolerated by the fans.

Did not expect such bad decisions today,, it was clear that we are not a match to this Inter with our absentees..
Should have fielded 451, CR7 as the 1 and played for a draw.. would had a better chance at winning this game.

this is ridiculous.. it was pretty clear that Ramsey, Frabotta, Rabiot and Benta combination was disastrous

Starting to wonder if he is full of himself,, unless he has a pass for his job on a top 4 finish,, it was the worst decision he could take to accept this role now with this team as a new coach..


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kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
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It is obvious by now that he probably has a gentleman's agreement with Agnelli the he isn't going to get sacked during the season.
I don't think he would have resisted in charge this long otherwise.
 

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