Andrea Pirlo (94 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Are you getting up to watch it live? That's gotta be around 5am for you right?

6 I think. Damn skippy I am. First game of the season, new stadium, Giovinco getting chopped down by Lickity, hopefully a win.

 

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[ThirdStar]

Good. Now stop being a bug.

who the fuck says that ROFL

Let's chill, guys. We all have something in common, remember? We fucking love Juventus!

Exactly, that's why when a player is not good enough we call him out

ThirdStar bringing down the name of all members whose name begin with Third.

Hey, as long as I don't bring down the name of Juventus by ghosting.

 

[Linebreak]

Marchisio is not a DM, no. He is a box-to-box CM. What I'm saying is he can play in a 2-man midfield. Of course CM partners should complement each other. You wouldn't play Makelele and Mascherano together in a 4-4-2 nor Scholes and Xavi. England had problems fitting Gerrard and Lampard together so they moved Gerrard out wide and tried all kinds of things.

Marchisio--Vidal could work if we had particularly capable and creative wingers. For Juve, I'd say 4-3-3 with Vidal--Pirlo--Marchisio is the best option.

We'll see if Vidal--Pirlo works. It may, but Vidal will then not be the attacking threat he was with Leverkusen as he'd be forced to watch Pirlo's ass.

Why have we all been fooled into believing Conte plays a 4-2-4 formation, that's just ludicrous - a team playing 4-2-4 would get slaughtered on most occasions, even if Rambo was playing CM.

He just likes his wingers to attack a bit more, but it's still a standard unimaginative 4-4-2

Bottom line is Marchisio is not a starting player, he has no real outstanding qualities - no vision, no short-passing or long-passing game, average speed, weaker than a kid, not creative, lacks ability to control the tempo, he's not and will never be a starting CM.

Fact of the matter is Marchisio is a great bench player to have.

 

[ThirdStar]

You know, ManU lately are using a 4-2-4

It's really interesting, their Midfield is not all that but they're pulling it off. It probably helps that their backline is disciplined

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

LB, by 2-man I mean 2 centremids.

 

[Linebreak]

LB, by 2-man I mean 2 centremids.

Yeah fair enough - though I really think there's no such thing as a 4-2-4 - just a attack minded 4-4-2 yet the media keeps pushing this whole 4-2-4 story.

 

[Salvatore]

Yeah fair enough - though I really think there's no such thing as a 4-2-4 - just a attack minded 4-4-2 yet the media keeps pushing this whole 4-2-4 story.

Is the Man Utd 4-4-2 also "unimaginative"?

 

[Linebreak]

Is the Man Utd 4-4-2 also "unimaginative"?

Players like Nani, Rooney, Evra, Young, (do I have to go on?) make it so.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Let's chill, guys. We all have something in common, remember? We fucking love Juventus!

But that's not enough for most of us on these boards.

Pointless sniping is always fun

 

[ALC]

Please stop comparing Juve's formation to United. Their top 4 is interchangeable, those guys are all over the place, nothing like what I've seen of Conte's Juve.

I wonder if they'll play 4-2-3-1 when Chicharito comes back though.

 

[Salvatore]

Please stop comparing Juve's formation to United. Their top 4 is interchangeable, those guys are all over the place, nothing like what I've seen of Conte's Juve.

I wonder if they'll play 4-2-3-1 when Chicharito comes back though.

Nani, Young and Rooney move about enough, and it's still a 4-4-2 which works well. Some seem to think that it's a problem with the formation, and not whether the personnel are a good fit. This team's suitability, given the influential players, is rightfully up for debate.

 

[Linebreak]

Please stop comparing Juve's formation to United. Their top 4 is interchangeable, those guys are all over the place, nothing like what I've seen of Conte's Juve.

I wonder if they'll play 4-2-3-1 when Chicharito comes back though.

It's like they've been given licence to roam - so far Conte's formation seems very static and useless at retaining possession or pressuring the opposition off the ball. Why do we insist on amateur coaches...

 

[LowLife]

Young is nothing spectacular another overrated english player. Whoever saw the community shield cup thingy he couldn't do anything in that came because Richards didn't give him a chance.

 

[R.A.B.]

Young is nothing spectacular another overrated english player. Whoever saw the community shield cup thingy he couldn't do anything in that came because Richards didn't give him a chance.

Yes overrated, you saw him 1 time, smart judge from 1 match. Look how he played in next games. He is very good winger, not overrated.

 

[LowLife]

Yes overrated, you saw him 1 time, smart judge from 1 match. Look how he played in next games. He is very good winger, not overrated.

Last game he played vs the worst rb (arsenal kid). so very good judgment by you too

 

[Juventini 1897]

Andrea Pirlo made 117 touches yesterday vs Slovenia completing 92 passes, more than any other player in the game. Soul

 

[Nenz]

Is the Man Utd 4-4-2 also "unimaginative"?

Players like Nani, Rooney, Evra, Young, (do I have to go on?) make it so.

Well that just goes to show how over rated the 4-3-3 is. The only reason everyone on here wants us to play it (before they've even seen us play the 4-4-2) is because Barca do but look at the players they're able to field. The success of a formation depends solely on the quality of the players and how those players suit it. It was up to Marotta to meet those criteria and unfortunately he has failed on both fronts. Does that mean that we should play a 4-3-3? I would prefer a manager organises this team in a way that he understands best. Conte's 4-4-2/4-2-4 is years in the making and is the most practiced and understood formation in his repertoire.

 

[IrishZebra]

Nani,Rooney,Young- perennial finalists


Elia,Vucinic,Krasic - Good enough for serie A 3rd place.

 

[ALC]

United doesn't and won't stick to a single formation though, they've got players good enough for any formation out there.

We could definitely use another coach but I'm hoping Conte proves me wrong.

 

[Suns]

Marchisio - Vidal

Krasic - Quag - Vucinic - Elia

That would be more like United in this "4-2-4". All the players need to be very versatile.