Andrea Cambiaso (16 Viewers)

[Signora Omicidi]

Who is next.Yildiz for 100m? Small club mentally. Our football is dire. Our results are pathetic. the only positive thing to look forward is our players like Combiaso, Yildiz and Conceicao... And we are selling them.

This club is done.

 

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[littlePrince]

He is a good player for sure but selling a fullback for 70-80 million is good.
Only bremer and yildiz are irreplacable.
But we are in january and should find a good player to replace him though Weston has played well there recently

 

[Akshen]

He is a good player for sure but selling a fullback for 70-80 million is good.
Only bremer and yildiz are irreplacable.
But we are in january and should find a good player to replace him though Weston has played well there recently

 

[juve123]

We have no record of a request for 80mln€. It’s possible to reach an agreement for 55mln€ plus substantial bonuses. However, at least for now, Juventus does not want to proceed in January but would prefer to set up the deal now for June.

@AlfredoPedulla

 

[Orgut]

We have no record of a request for 80mln€. It’s possible to reach an agreement for 55mln€ plus substantial bonuses. However, at least for now, Juventus does not want to proceed in January but would prefer to set up the deal now for June.

@AlfredoPedulla

Reports now say 65M - Holy Shit!
We can play it hard to get but honestly it would be stupid not to sell him for that amount.

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Who is next.Yildiz for 100m? Small club mentally. Our football is dire. Our results are pathetic. the only positive thing to look forward is our players like Combiaso, Yildiz and Conceicao... And we are selling them.

This club is done.

Cambiasso isnt worth that amount and lest face it:
Cambiasso is a very good player and he is versatile BUT - He isnt very good at defending which makes him a bit of a liability when playing in a team that needs to do a lot of defending - We are actually his less suited club for his characteristics.
Now you can argue about him playing as a LWB but again it would be great at lots of teams but we have that being under pressure mentality (which is pretty stupid on its own).
So LM - At LM he can do well, probably his best position to play for Juve but then you ask yourself if its worth it (picking the formation solely on one player), Im not sure about it.
Maybe in a wide 4-3-1-2 formation as a LM (similar to the way we played during our first Lippi era) but we need to try that first and we arent seemingly close to play like that.
LW? You dont want Cambiasso there - He would provide a few assists but he isnt the type to tear up defenses.

Yildiz and Conceicao are subject to the next question - Are we going to continue to suck or are we going to win the Scudetto again in the next 2 or 3 years.
They wont stay if they feel they can go another level but IF we play like a great team - I can see Yildiz becoming that unique Turkish symbol for Juventus.
Conceicao is more tricky as we dont know about him much. He might want to join a team like Barcelona in which he can be a second tenur to Yamal.. who knows..

 

[s4tch]

We have no record of a request for 80mln€. It’s possible to reach an agreement for 55mln€ plus substantial bonuses. However, at least for now, Juventus does not want to proceed in January but would prefer to set up the deal now for June.

@AlfredoPedulla

compared to yesterday's "news" it sounds more realistic and less dumb at the same time. i still would keep him. you can't build a young team without keeping some key players on the long run

and no, i wouldn't give a shit about what motta thinks about cambiaso. he's a good player, motta must learn how to manage them. if he alienated multiple players, including danilo and cambiaso, then it's not a player issue

 

[Akshen]

compared to yesterday's "news" it sounds more realistic and less dumb at the same time. i still would keep him. you can't build a young team without keeping some key players on the long run

and no, i wouldn't give a shit about what motta thinks about cambiaso. he's a good player, motta must learn how to manage them. if he alienated multiple players, including danilo and cambiaso, then it's not a player issue

u really think Motta has anything to do with this? Did he say something about Cambiaso lately which might suggest it? Actually i tihnk he even defended him, saying he had a hard time coming back from the injury with a flu.
My guess would be that his agents were contacted by City and offered triple to what he earns now, so he is pushing Juve to give him a raise or release him. He will be 25 in few days, so its probably the best moment for him to transfer (now or in the summer).
His drop in form is visible and this can be confirmed even by his biggest fans here - its either post injury or the transfer got into his head.

 

[s4tch]

u really think Motta has anything to do with this?

what's happening around the club fits this narrative pretty accurately:



of course it's just speculation but i wouldn't be surprised if it was confirmed. out of those players he mentions, gatti lost the armband and his starting place for a while, danilo was all but fired already, and there's this cambiaso thing now, whatever it is

 

[Akshen]

what's happening around the club fits this narrative pretty accurately:



of course it's just speculation but i wouldn't be surprised if it was confirmed. out of those players he mentions, gatti lost the armband and his starting place for a while, danilo was all but fired already, and there's this cambiaso thing now, whatever it is

io non parlo italiano bene, what he is saying?

 

[s4tch]

io non parlo italiano bene, what he is saying?

salvo wrote a few summaries in the motta thread, starting from here

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/thiago-motta.45275/page-154#post-6855335

 

[PhRoZeN]

salvo wrote a few summaries in the motta thread, starting from here

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/thiago-motta.45275/page-154#post-6855335

So Gatti, Luiz and Dusan ready to ship off then?

 

[juve123]

Juventus and Manchester city will meet to negotiate a deal for Andrea Cambiaso who has accepted a 5 year deal with the English club. The only thing in doubt will transfer happen now or in June.


— @Gazzetta_it

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Next in line seems to be yildiz if any club offers 70-80 million euros will Giuntoli sell him also?

 

[Akshen]

salvo wrote a few summaries in the motta thread, starting from here

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/thiago-motta.45275/page-154#post-6855335

but why would Giuntoli ask Danilo about that when he is rarely playing?
Maybe its true who knows, but from my point of view Danilo was just not wanted from the start of the season - he was never played.
And looking at the performances he had when he was actually playing it was right, because he was shit in almost every game he played besides City and Bologna games.
And i dont know what these guys were thinking, but we started leaking goals because we lost Bremer and Gatti is an amateur.

 

[Zzak]

Juventus and Manchester city will meet to negotiate a deal for Andrea Cambiaso who has accepted a 5 year deal with the English club. The only thing in doubt will transfer happen now or in June.


— @Gazzetta_it

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Next in line seems to be yildiz if any club offers 70-80 million euros will Giuntoli sell him also?

I really hope we don't sell Yldiz, unless we get 150 mil or something like that. He has the potential to be a generational talent.
Cambiaso can be world class but at 24 I think he is pretty close to his ceilling, Yldiz is pretty far from it.

 

[s4tch]

but why would Giuntoli ask Danilo about that when he is rarely playing?

he's the captain, a senior player who plays for juve for a long time, is an experienced player. of course he'll be one of the the first to ask about things in the locker for any reasonable person

 

[Xperd]

We missed the train to sell Bonucci and Sandro for massive sums to the EPL.

We even bought back that leech for a significant amount ffs and had to force him to leave when he was done

I do hope we don't miss this train. I agree that this would be another Alex Sandro moment. The negotiations appear to be deep. I am not quite sure he will play at the same level/regain his form if this falls through. You never know with these gen Z players.

Just take the money and go.

Bayern are in the same predicament of potentially having to sell Musiala along with Davies and they are levels above us atm.

So this keeps happening in modern football these days.

 

[s4tch]

We missed the train to sell Bonucci and Sandro for massive sums to the EPL.

We even bought back that leech for a significant amount ffs and had to force him to leave when he was done

I do hope we don't miss this train. I agree that this would be another Alex Sandro moment. The negotiations appear to be deep. I am not quite sure he will play at the same level/regain his form if this falls through. You never know with these gen Z players.

Just take the money and go.

Bayern are in the same predicament of potentially having to sell Musiala along with Davies and they are levels above us atm.

So this keeps happening in modern football these days.

and when we sell vidal we're bitching about it for a decade (and rightly so as he was never replaced)

cambiaso is a rare profile. show me the replacement and then you can sell. rouhi and mckennie aren't appropriate replacements though

 

[Alen]

Juventus and Manchester city will meet to negotiate a deal for Andrea Cambiaso who has accepted a 5 year deal with the English club. The only thing in doubt will transfer happen now or in June.
— @Gazzetta_it

It makes little difference. I don't see him giving even close to his best if he knows that come July he'll go to City.

 

[Tak!]

60-70m is kinda hard to turn down. But I wonder what names the replacements would be.

How about an unknown Portuguese from a mid-table team in Portugal, who is 21 but only played on a professional level for a few months? Who was not deemed to be a starter in the beginning of the season at that level. He is valued to around 1m so we can easily get him for a third of what we get from Cambiaso. The rest we can spend on CB that has four good months under his belt but have been bang average for years and years. Maybe I should add he is in fairly poor league in an overperforming team too.
Really good value from selling our best player.

 

[Xperd]

and when we sell vidal we're bitching about it for a decade (and rightly so as he was never replaced)

cambiaso is a rare profile. show me the replacement and then you can sell. rouhi and mckennie aren't appropriate replacements though

I wouldn't do a deal now but I'll definitely do this deal for June. The replacement will be inferior(most likely some young talent) because the money will be used to reinforce multiple positions.

Verbally agree on a deal and sell him in June.

We are talking about cash-strapped JJ who are losing €200M every year. This was expected to happen.

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How about an unknown Portuguese from a mid-table team in Portugal, who is 21 but only played on a professional level for a few months? Who was not deemed to be a starter in the beginning of the season at that level. He is valued to around 1m so we can easily get him for a third of what we get from Cambiaso. The rest we can spend on CB that has four good months under his belt but have been bang average for years and years. Maybe I should add he is in fairly poor league in an overperforming team too.
Really good value from selling our best player.

Our best player is recovering from an ACL. Our season ended when he got injured.