Amauri Carvalho de Oliveira (35 Viewers)

[Zaim]

Criscito many times screwed his chance.He was really bad almost every match he played.

IMO the first games he was ok seeing the fact he was a starter in his first season of Serie A. We were all praising him and some calling him the new Canna. Then he messes up against Totti of all people and bye bye Criscito.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

IMO the first games he was ok seeing the fact he was a starter in his first season of Serie A. We were all praising him and some calling him the new Canna. Then he messes up against Totti of all people and bye bye Criscito.

That was not the only time he screwed something up.And also,while on this loan in Genoa he screwed many times as well.

 

[Alen]

Yes and Milan had no problems upfront this season.

Yeah, if Ronaldo and Inzaghi weren't injured all season long and if Gilardino wasn't the timber he is, i'm 100% sure that Paloschi wouldn't have played at all.
He was just an emergency, nothing else, and Paloschi playing has absolutely nothing to do with Milan giving chances to the youngsters.

Guys, you need to realize that most of our youngsters aren't as good as you think they are. At most 2 out of 50 players from our primavera could make it at the end. Don't put too much hope on them.
Don't look at Arsenal. Wenger's team isn't consisted of players that grew up in Arsenal's youth schools.
We aren't Empoli to give so many chances to unproven kids and hope they'll be good. Criscito was a good example, Nocerino is a good example. We need players that will make an immediate impact and if the choice, at the moment, is between Amauri and Lanzafame, i know who will be the one i'd pick.
Ask yourselves, how many players in Lippi time when we ruled Europe came from Juve primavera ?
None of us know for sure, but probably there were similar discussions back in 1996 when instead of giving chances to some primavera players we decided to buy some midfielder from Bordaux, some unproven Aussie-Italian from Atalanta, some Uruguayan butcher from Atalanta and one Croatian striker who looks similar to Amauri in his body constitution.

It's ok to have younger players in the team but we should pick them depending on how good they are. There should be no advantages for someone coming from Juve's youth system over someone like Sissoko who's just as young but didn't play for Juve's primavera. Only the quality matters !

 

[Luca]

Fuck off Amauri you big oaf. I would never trade cristico , giovincio, marchiso, de celgie for you

 

[Dostoevsky]

Yeah!Tell them Triviggy!

 

[Luca]

Take this zamparini

 

[Alen]

Fuck off Amauri you big oaf. I would never trade cristico , giovincio, marchiso, de celgie for you

You don't even know their names and i guess you never saw them play either

 

[vimo]

Yeah, if Ronaldo and Inzaghi weren't injured all season long and if Gilardino wasn't the timber he is, i'm 100% sure that Paloschi wouldn't have played at all.
He was just an emergency, nothing else, and Paloschi playing has absolutely nothing to do with Milan giving chances to the youngsters.

Guys, you need to realize that most of our youngsters aren't as good as you think they are. At most 2 out of 50 players from our primavera could make it at the end. Don't put too much hope on them.
Don't look at Arsenal. Wenger's team isn't consisted of players that grew up in Arsenal's youth schools.
We aren't Empoli to give so many chances to unproven kids and hope they'll be good. Criscito was a good example, Nocerino is a good example. We need players that will make an immediate impact and if the choice, at the moment, is between Amauri and Lanzafame, i know who will be the one i'd pick.
Ask yourselves, how many players in Lippi time when we ruled Europe came from Juve primavera ?
None of us know for sure, but probably there were similar discussions back in 1996 when instead of giving chances to some primavera players we decided to buy some midfielder from Bordaux, some unproven Aussie-Italian from Atalanta, some Uruguayan butcher from Atalanta and one Croatian striker who looks similar to Amauri in his body constitution.

It's ok to have younger players in the team but we should pick them depending on how good they are. There should be no advantages for someone coming from Juve's youth system over someone like Sissoko who's just as young but didn't play for Juve's primavera. Only the quality matters !

Excellent post! I'd +rep u but i can't somehow... dunno.
I said it multiple times, i don't want amauri, but taking back lanzafame instead is just plain madness. He might be a good player, but he's very unproven, unexperienced and chances he'll catch up to reach a juve-worth level (atm) are little to none. Out of all our youngsters, i consider only giovinco possibly juve-worthy. That does not mean that we are doing bad primavera-work, or that all the others suck. But you simply can't "produce" tomorrows CRonaldos and Aguero. You have to be very lucky besides having a good primavera-coach, in order to get positive results. Again, Giovinco MIGHT be good for us, but it's not as if he'll come to juve and be a goal/assist-machine. integrating him will take his time, and he might as well not make it. I mean it's risky. But before everyone starts screaming; it's undeniable that that boy's got skill, i rate him very much. It's just that e have to stop thinking we shouldn't buy any players for positions in which we have a 18yr-old somewhere in italy.
Having said that, amauri might not be that bad (it's just his price which is freaking me out).

I agree wholeheartedly that arsenal's youngsters are doing a fabulous job, BUT in order to get where they are, you need a lot of time, and a lot of money. We just aren't there atm.

 

[Philipp00]

10 millions+palladino+criscito would be a deal worth 20-25 millions. that is too much. we can get plyers we need more for that money.

 

[Luca]

You don't even know their names and i guess you never saw them play either

mate of course i do, im just angry. I watched them play a lot i just cba to learn how to spell their names correctly and i have been to many matches :
roma-juve
Bari-juve
Milan-juve

so do not call me a false fan oh and one more thing I'm italian and you are not so there

get your facts right before you critise someone

 

[Alen]

mate of course i do, im just angry. I watched them play a lot i just cba to learn how to spell their names correctly and i have been to many matches at the stadium so do not call me a false fan oh and one more thing I'm italian and you are not so there

Yeah, you're an Italian that "needs time to learn how to spell Italian names".

Si, forse sei un Italiano, pero sono sicuro che non capisci una parola in Italiano. Sei Italiano perche hai il "sangue Italiano" e perche i tuoi nonni sono d'origine Italiana ?

 

[Luca]

Yeah, you're an Italian that "needs time to learn how to spell Italian names".

Si, forse sei un Italiano, pero sono sicuro che non capisci una parola in Italiano. Sei Italiano perche hai il "sangue Italiano" e perche i tui nonni sono d'origine Italiana ?

I live in england mate but i understand what you say I go to italy 3 times a year but i don't go to learn how to spell names

 

[Zaim]

Come on guys, no need for this. We're all Juventini.

 

[Luca]

Come on guys, no need for this. We're all Juventini.

Yes i know but he is basicly calling me a false fan when in fact juventus has run through my familys blood for decades. i don't give a crap about a players name as long as they play good i'm extremely passionate but i'm not a fanatic

I have no problem with alen and i am not saying that he is a false fan either everyone in this forum is passionate about juve just as much as the ultras

 

[Alen]

I live in england mate but i understand what you say I go to italy 3 times a year but i don't go to learn how to spell names

Fine, sorry for being a little rude but i'm annoyed when i read these "Fuck the others, lets give a chance to our youngsters" discussions.
All of us would prefer Criscito over defender X if Criscito is better than him, or even if they are equally good, but for the good of our team we must pick the better player, no matter if he's French, Asian, African, Jew or Arab.

For CL we will need 3 players in the 25 men squad that will come from our youth system. Giovinco is a must, Marchisio should also be included and then we can add one more guy (Palladino, De Ceglie etc). But imo, that should be it because i don't see another of our youngsters who can add smthg to the team.

Yes i know but he is basicly calling me a false fan when in fact juventus has run through my familys blood for decades. i don't give a crap about a players name as long as they play good i'm extremely passionate but i'm not a fanatic

I have no problem with alen

I never called you, nor though of you as a false fan.

 

[Luca]

Fine, sorry for being a little rude but i'm annoyed when i read these "Fuck the others, lets give a chance to our youngsters" discussions.
All of us would prefer Criscito over defender X if Criscito is better than him, or even if they are equally good, but for the good of our team we must pick the better player, no matter if he's French, Asian, African, Jew or Arab.

For CL we will need 3 players in the 25 men squad that will come from our youth system. Giovinco is a must, Marchisio should also be included and then we can add one more guy (Palladino, De Ceglie etc). But imo, that should be it because i don't see another of our youngsters who can add smthg to the team.

Yes I agree with you i'm not the 100% Italian team only fan after all players like sivori, charles, brady and platini shape the club we love today
Sorry for being so irate :hug:

 

[Dominic]

Having said that, amauri might not be that bad (it's just his price which is freaking me out).

Amauri definitely will not be that bad. He's as much a guarantee for quality as you can possibly sign. The only qualms about this transfer could be that it unjustly victimizes Iaquinta and Amauri's price tag is somewhat high(especially if certain youngsters are traded). As far as i'm concerned, Amauri's quality should not be up for discussion.

Think about it, we play on three (or maybe 2,5) fronts next season. Trez and DP, though still among the best forwards in Europe, are getting somewhat on and chances are they won't be as sharp if they play as much games next season + all the CL games. Not to mention both, especially the former, have a history of being injured(Iaquinta has been out several times this season as well). Amauri can take either place, as he adds power, technique, fantasy as well as finishing.

Imagine any of our two starting forwards going out, or even worse both.. and I think it could certainly happen. As much as I like Iaquinta, I wouldn't trust Iaquinta-Palladino to bring home a result very easily. Iaquinta- Amauri would be a whole different story altogether.

 

[Luca]

Amauri definitely will not be that bad. He's as much a guarantee for quality as you can possibly sign. The only qualms about this transfer could be that it unjustly victimizes Iaquinta and Amauri's price tag is somewhat high(especially if certain youngsters are traded). As far as i'm concerned, Amauri's quality should not be up for discussion.

Think about it, we play on three (or maybe 2,5) fronts next season. Trez and DP, though still among the best forwards in Europe, are getting somewhat on and chances are they won't be as sharp if they play as much games next season + all the CL games. Not to mention both, especially the former, have a history of being injured(Iaquinta has been out several times this season as well). Amauri can take either place, as he adds power, technique, fantasy as well as finishing.

Imagine any of our two starting forwards going out, or even worse both.. and I think it could certainly happen. As much as I like Iaquinta, I wouldn't trust Iaquinta-Palladino to bring home a result very easily. Iaquinta- Amauri would be a whole different story altogether.

I feel Iaquinta is the real loser of this deal, i'd be sorry for him, it would like when we booted out bradey for platini, that year brady dragged our team to the title all on his own, although comparing iaq to brady and especially comparing amauri to platini is unnacurrate you should get what i mean + giving youngsters up for him is too much imo

 

[fonsén]

That amount of money (and players going out) should only be used in a player who is guaranteed a place in the starting line-up, and will be giving our game something new. Amauri would basically be just another Iaquinta.

 

[Stefanjuventino]

Let Palladino go and Criscito.

Palla always plays on the left or right flank, we can use giovinco on that spot.
He impressed me more than Palla did whole season.

And let Criscito go because we get a extra defender in the transfer window + Andrade will be back and Mellberg will come, what the hell do we need Criscito for then. He will never play then.

Andrade
Mellberg
Chiellini
Legrotaglie
and if they are smart they buy Stendardo to.

enough CB right...


and if Zamparini is still whining like a bitch then give him Nocerino to. i aint that big a fan of him. Next season we have on the midfield

Sissoko
Zanneti
Marchisio
and if we do good we maybe get Hamsik.
+ we still got Tiago who is doing better each game he playes....



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