Amauri Carvalho de Oliveira (49 Viewers)

At what cost would you be ok with Amauri?

  • Giovinco + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + Giovinco

  • Nocerino + Almiron + Marchionni

  • Almiron + Marchionni + cash

  • Fuck no, don't want him at all

  • Almiron+cash


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Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
Firstly, Gila is way better then Palladino, get a grip.

Secondly, you might be right in saying its an unnecessary risk if we have other good options, but if we dont, and if he comes quite cheap as he should do, he would NOT be waste of money. He is better then Palladino in a big way, and he can be way more prolific then Iaquinta (way more talented goalscorer), in being backup for Trezeguet.

I dont want to be facetious, but you dont need to be nostradamus to think some of you being 100% exaggerated in how bad he is, will eat up your words just as how too many were ridicolously exaggerated in saying how bad Momo and Iaquinta would be.

Change of venue, a system like ours and other teams that gives service to a poacher like Gila (while Milans one has zero wingplay, and they are used to isolating their strikers, having Sheva type who is one man attack, not someone who needs service all the time, Trez would suffer a bit in their system who is very unfriendly to a paocher), and him gaining his confidence after picking up form (big reason of his failure is confidence, not ability), and I dont doubt you will be seeing a profilic goalscorer like the one of Parma again. Or if not entirely, still be way better then in Milan. I predict alot of people (not you perse) would be eating up their words then, by just saying he sucks and exaggerating like he is worst striker in calcio.

P.S I still prefer to sign Amauri because of his overall qualites that is more then a poacher. But in REASONABLE price, his attitude is annoying me already, but if he comes with a fair price, he would be the update we need.
You are probably right that Gila is better than Palladino but there is not much of a difference to me. I thought we are looking for a clear upgrade? I even think Palladino has more raw talent. Gila (even though he bagged quite enough of goals in Serie A) is just declining instead of growing and gets worse with every season. In Champions League and for the Azzurri he was completely worthless.

I surely won't eat up my words, as I always maintained Iaquinta and Sissoko were quality players. Try to find my old posts, I welcomed those players with open arms. Hence I didn't have any sudden change of opinion like many did when they jumped on their bandwagons.
 

rounder

Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
Gilardino has had 2 good seasons with Parma, went to Milan, then fell apart. That's all we know about him, we can't just assume he will do well in Juve because he's a Juventus fan or because we have a history in relaunching players' carreers. That argument is nonesense. However, we do know that he has failed in the past and was not the player everyone expected him to be.

There's no reason things will be any different in Juve. We have all seen Gila long enough and we know his abilities are limited, he is a goal poacher but when a goal poacher doesn't score any goals, he isn't much of a player at all. It's not like Milan cast a spell on him and made his talent disappear. He's a good player that never lived up to his expectations, that's the harsh reality. He had potential, granted, in fact, I used to enjoy watching him in the Italy U21 days where he was amazing. I would have loved to have that Gila in Juventus. Then, he continued to disappoint in Milan year after year untill it was dead obvious he isn't up to standard.

I wouldn't mind having him on the bench as he could be useful for us in the long run but I would surely not oick him over Amauri. Gila reminds me of Inzaghi, despite his shortcomings in terms of ability, he seems to find himself in the right place at the right time. The only difference between Gila and Inzaghi is that Inzaghi keeps scoring.

I would much rather have a player like Amauri though who promises so much more. Anyway, it's just another day in football where Milan steals the true talent and leaves us to pick at the garbage they left behind.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
I want quality where we dont already have it, i.e majority of our defense, and a CAM. DP, Trez, Iaquinta, Palladino is good enough up front for at least one year, i just want to strengthen the more important areas first, then if we have left over $ we can buy a good striker. But i want to splurge on a good CAM most importantly, and also a defender (tho Ujfalusi for free would be fantastic).
A defender and a midfielder will arrive regardless of the transfer of Amauri. We will not buy an expensive superstar anyway.

I do not believe he is a bad player though, thats the thing, i just think he is unnecessary for the fee and players we will lose to get him.

Edit : sorry for double post.
Losing Lanzafame/Nocerino/Palladino/Marchionni/Criscito/Almiron, any combination (not all of them) of these players is acceptable in my book. Marchisio, De Ceglie and Giovinco should be untouchable and if we are about to lose those players, then stepping out of the deal is a must. That I can agree with.
 

Gill_juve

Senior Member
May 29, 2006
5,494
why? its true. he wants to play for italy but if brazil call hes ready to jump on a plane. he doesnt know if he wants to go to juve or milan. you really think that if barca or real come knocking if hes playing for us hes going to be loyal? i dont think so.

i like him, but it doesnt mean that i cant see what kind of player he is. we have no big headed players in our team since ibra.
 

Gill_juve

Senior Member
May 29, 2006
5,494
Gilardino has had 2 good seasons with Parma, went to Milan, then fell apart. That's all we know about him, we can't just assume he will do well in Juve because he's a Juventus fan or because we have a history in relaunching players' carreers. That argument is nonesense. However, we do know that he has failed in the past and was not the player everyone expected him to be.

There's no reason things will be any different in Juve. We have all seen Gila long enough and we know his abilities are limited, he is a goal poacher but when a goal poacher doesn't score any goals, he isn't much of a player at all. It's not like Milan cast a spell on him and made his talent disappear. He's a good player that never lived up to his expectations, that's the harsh reality. He had potential, granted, in fact, I used to enjoy watching him in the Italy U21 days where he was amazing. I would have loved to have that Gila in Juventus. Then, he continued to disappoint in Milan year after year untill it was dead obvious he isn't up to standard.

I wouldn't mind having him on the bench as he could be useful for us in the long run but I would surely not oick him over Amauri. Gila reminds me of Inzaghi, despite his shortcomings in terms of ability, he seems to find himself in the right place at the right time. The only difference between Gila and Inzaghi is that Inzaghi keeps scoring.

I wouldn't mind having him on the bench. Why not? I would much rather have a player like Amauri though who promises so much more. Anyway, it's just another day in football where Milan steals the true talent and leaves us to pick at the garbage they left behind.
tbh we shoot ourselves in the feet when it comes to transfers. we have some unwritten law that we must have atleast 5 defensive midfielders in our team, and only one flair player can be on the team at any one moment.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
why? its true. he wants to play for italy but if brazil call hes ready to jump on a plane. he doesnt know if he wants to go to juve or milan. you really think that if barca or real come knocking if hes playing for us hes going to be loyal? i dont think so.

i like him, but it doesnt mean that i cant see what kind of player he is. we have no big headed players in our team since ibra.
He wants to play for the NT? Hardly a mercenary. Of course his 1st choice would be Brazil if he was to be called but if not, he is willing to help Italy. How is that a mercenary? He would be a mercenary if he wanted to be paid heavily for doing nothing, which isn't the case. I think you are seriously confusing mercenary with some other word. Not all players can bleed black & white.
 

rounder

Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
why? its true. he wants to play for italy but if brazil call hes ready to jump on a plane. he doesnt know if he wants to go to juve or milan. you really think that if barca or real come knocking if hes playing for us hes going to be loyal? i dont think so.

i like him, but it doesnt mean that i cant see what kind of player he is. we have no big headed players in our team since ibra.
If his home country calls for him to play there, why the fuck we say no? Is he not a Brazilian, isn't that what Brazilians want to do? Play for Brazil?

I don't understand how you are talking about loyalty, he has yet to do anything that suggests he isn't loyal. He gets and offer from Juve and an offer from Milan, he tries to ponder his next destination that could be crucial at this stage in his career. Does that make him disloyal, unfaithful?

He doesn't have a big head, he just wants to do what's in his best interest. Is that so wrong? Is it inhuman to look out for yourself and evaluate your options before you make a decision? I really can't understand your logic.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
I don't see why people are saying amauri is better then gila, on current form yes
however amauri has only ever had 2 good seasons like gila, however gila is younger and showed more potential than amauri, a change of secenery could do gila the world of good and would you refuse the gila of Parma? This is why I think he would be a better coup then amauri plus it would save us a hell of a lot of money so we can strengthen else where
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,440
first of all we should think about bringing in a player for the starting XI or a player who is a 4th choice striker.... gila is just a shadow of hisself and is just a big flop.. i wouldn't risk to bring him to juve for around 10mil or more.... amauri is much better and he has even the chance to play in the starting XI.... same goes for our defenders no need for free transfers is they are just backups...please buy us a wc cb.... or atleast a lb ....
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
first of all we should think about bringing in a player for the starting XI or a player who is a 4th choice striker.... gila is just a shadow of hisself and is just a big flop.. i wouldn't risk to bring him to juve for around 10mil or more.... amauri is much better and he has even the chance to play in the starting XI.... same goes for our defenders no need for free transfers is they are just backups...please buy us a wc cb.... or atleast a lb ....
so amauri who has flopped his entire career except at Palermo would'nt flop here?
yes I agree with you we do need strengthening in other areas first
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
I agree. They want Giovinco??

I'll welcome Gila before I say goodbye to Giovinco. If that's what it'll take to get Amuari, I don't want any part of it.
Exactly :agree: amauri who is in the form of his life now. You cannot compare him to gila when he was in the form of his life

That's why I'd gladly take gila
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,440
so amauri who has flopped his entire career except at Palermo would'nt flop here?
yes I agree with you we do need strengthening in other areas first
atleast he is on form now :D but still i am against both :D i would go for hunterlaar and if we don't get him lets play with trezeguet delpiero iaquinta and palla for one more season...we have the best attack in italy so why would we need to buy a new striker so badly? lets go for 1-2 defenders and atleast a wc playmaker...
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
atleast he is on form now :D but still i am against both :D i would go for hunterlaar and if we don't get him lets play with trezeguet delpiero iaquinta and palla for one more season...we have the best attack in italy so why would we need to buy a new striker so badly? lets go for 1-2 defenders and atleast a wc playmaker...
My peferance would be huntelaar.
joaquin was a better player than c.ronaldo a few years back you tell me who is better now?
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
so is mine....
jaquin is better :melayyanandmessi: ok but still u cant compare this to amauri and gila
well you can because it implements how temporary great form can affect peoples opinions on players

You seriously think joaquin is better than cr7 now?!
 
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