Alex Sandro (66 Viewers)

[DAiDEViL]

Couldn't our management, for once, come out and say "we don't sell Alex Sandro." though?

It's in our hands. He's under contract til 2020.

 

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[Mark]

Couldn't our management, for once, come out and say "we don't sell Alex Sandro." though?

It's in our hands. He's under contract til 2020.

 

[JuveJay]

Couldn't our management, for once, come out and say "we don't sell Alex Sandro." though?

It's in our hands. He's under contract til 2020.

"We don't sell our best players"
"If a player asks to leave we will sell them"

Marotta literally says these two things every summer. Would him lying be more reassuring?

Until some point Alex Sandro asks to leave he isn't being sold.

 

[DAiDEViL]

"We don't sell our best players"
"If a player asks to leave we will sell them".

Without all the "if's" i mean.

The latter statement renders the first one useless.

 

[Bianconero81]

Without all the "if's" i mean.

The latter statement renders the first one useless.

No need to encourage other teams or give them hope. It also sends the wrong message to the players, as in no one is indispensable. Let's just build on what we have for once ffs!

 

[il brutto]

Without all the "if's" i mean.

The latter statement renders the first one useless.

It doesn't, certainly weakens it though.

 

[DUKAC]

No need to encourage other teams or give them hope. It also sends the wrong message to the players, as in no one is indispensable. Let's just build on what we have for once ffs!

It clearly says,make a good offer and we will sell the player to you.

 

[il brutto]

It clearly says,make a good offer and we will sell the player to you.

No. Actually it says; "We have no intention of selling anyone, but if a player decides to leave... then at the end of the day he has to go."

Quite clear really.

 

[Bianconero81]

You are very naive if you actually believe it to be that simplistic. The whole "if the player wants to leave" BS is to attempt to appease the fans. "Hey look. Player wanted to leave. Our hands were tied. There was nothing we could do."

There are many ways an organization can attempt to get rid of you, without directly firing/disposing of you.

 

[il brutto]

You are very naive if you actually believe it to be that simplistic. The whole "if the player wants to leave" BS is to attempt to appease the fans. "Hey look. Player wanted to leave. Our hands were tied. There was nothing we could do."

There are many ways an organization can attempt to get rid of you, without directly firing/disposing of you.

Not naive at all, I just prefer to stick with the facts. Those are pretty close to the actual words he said. You can create million different scenarios in your head about them but sadly that doesn't make them any truer.

 

[Bianconero81]

Not naive at all, I just prefer to stick with the facts. Those are pretty close to the actual words he said. You can create million different scenarios in your head about them but sadly that doesn't make them any truer.

So, when both Vidal and Pogba left you were truly convinced they wanted to leave, and the club put absolutely no pressure on them to accept the offers coming their way? Seriously?

 

[il brutto]

So, when both Vidal and Pogba left you were truly convinced they wanted to leave, and the club put absolutely no pressure on them to accept the offers coming their way? Seriously?

Well in Pogba's case it's pretty clear that he was pushing for the move. In Vidal's case I have no clue and I really don't care but I wouldn't be surprised if we wanted to get rid because of his actions off the pitch (this is only speculation though).

 

[Bianconero81]

Well in Pogba's case it's pretty clear that he was pushing for the move. In Vidal's case I have no clue and I really don't care but I wouldn't be surprised if we wanted to get rid because of his actions off the pitch (this is only speculation though).

I respect your opinion, but I don't fully agree with it

 

[Sjaban]

Wouldn't be surprised if Beppe makes outgoing stars sign NDA's so it makes it look like his hands were tied


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[il brutto]

I respect your opinion, but I don't fully agree with it

That's fair enough. I think I'm in the minority with my opinion anyways at least until the season starts again

 

[rakib567]

Fucking conte
Fucking oil rich pricks
Fucking juve acting like pussy

 

[JCK]

"We don't sell our best players"
"If a player asks to leave we will sell them"

Marotta literally says these two things every summer. Would him lying be more reassuring?

Until some point Alex Sandro asks to leave he isn't being sold.

And if Alex Sandro's agent comes to him and says his player is willing to stay with higher wages he will tell him bring me the offers that are proposed. It is no longer on buying players that we don't go to bidding wars but even to keeping our own players.

There is a bidding war going on and we are obviously avoiding it.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Couldn't our management, for once, come out and say "we don't sell Alex Sandro." though?

It's in our hands. He's under contract til 2020.

No.

Because we turn into a vagina once we smell big cash.

 

[JuveJay]

No need to encourage other teams or give them hope. It also sends the wrong message to the players, as in no one is indispensable. Let's just build on what we have for once ffs!

No one is indispensable, that is something else that has been repeated many times. Why should a player be indispensable? They get comfortable and standards drop. I can think of a certain someone that applied to for large parts of this season. I can also think of someone else who we sold where it also did.

Things might work differently at other clubs, even other major clubs, but we sign certain types of players to buy into the identity of the collective. It's something our success is built on, why we sign the better Italians, why we buy bunches of South Americans at once, and it has to be characters of a professional nature. It also works the other way if a player gets their head turned.

Also, I'm almost certain that the directors see it as disrespectful if a player thinks another club is better for them. I think our club is an elitist one from an elite family and they are snobs in that sense. You want to leave Juventus? Bye then.

And finally I'd add in money. Yeah for all our success we were the 9th richest club in the last Deloitte report. NINTH. Chelsea for example had €100m extra in turnover than us. United's is double ours. Another big tv deal comes in for them. We are closing the gap too slowly at the top end. So at some point we can offer big wages to lots of different players only up to a point where it becomes a problem, a balancing act trying to be competitive on the field with a handicap on the balance sheet. It isn't a problem when you have €100m or €300m extra in revenue.

Still, until Alex Sandro suggests he wants to leave this is no different to the offers we rejected in the past for many of our leading players. What changed those was the desire of the player. The suggestion we are touting players around simply because we received a big offer is nonsense. We are a very successful team with many good players and because of the financial position of some other sides they'll bid big money for our players. Some will be tempting offers. In modern football everyone wants bigger and better and expensive and new and shiny. Fans and players alike. That's the reality.

 

[Fr3sh]

I honestly believe that this club has a philosophy similar to Arsenal's regarding what they want in the Prem League, being good enough to be somewhat relevant in the latter phases of the tournament and not winning it. That's us in the CL.