ofcouse he will play there. we dont have 2 starter calibre winger who Cerci will be a backup for. so, until we get these, he will play as an SS in a 3-5-2...
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Cerci is not a giant step up in quality. I'd rather save the 15M even if that means we don't use it this upcoming year.
He will just end up being a decent winger on not small wages that we will eventually try to replace.
If we buy him then we have to change formation do we not? Will a 4-3-3 with Cerci be any better than our current 3-5-2? Probably not really. So why bother.
He will just end up being a decent winger on not small wages that we will eventually try to replace.
If we buy him then we have to change formation do we not? Will a 4-3-3 with Cerci be any better than our current 3-5-2? Probably not really. So why bother.
IMO it would. Drop Bonucci, give Tevez and Llorente another guy upfront in Cerci (the dream is Cuadrado) and we'll look much better than right now. Cerci + Tevez offer counter-attacking threat so that would be a huge improvement over what we have right now. We need pace and counter attacking threat otherwise we have no chance to look for anything in CL. We're not Barca nor Bayern so we can't dominate games like they do. Solid defending + counter attacking ability should give us more chances in CL. In Serie A it would be useful as well.
It would require Tevez and especially Cerci to work hard in defense/pressing though. Overall I see it as an improvement even though many will disagree. In practice the formation would look like a Christmas tree I guess.
It would require Tevez and especially Cerci to work hard in defense/pressing though. Overall I see it as an improvement even though many will disagree. In practice the formation would look like a Christmas tree I guess.
Knowing how stringent our finances are, you are willing to pay 15-20M for Cerci when you know we need better players in attack to ever challenge seriously for the CL?
Teams are lining up on the wings Ronaldo/Bale/Di Maria... Robben/Ribery...Reus/Kuba...Hazard/Willian/Schurrle...Koke/Arda...Neymar/Alexis/Pedro...
And we are going to blow a significant investment on Cerci? The guy already had his shot at Fiorentina and Roma. Now he's playing a 100% counter-attacking style with no defensive responsibility and having the year of his life. Signings like Cerci just re-arrange the parts on the ship.
You know who else gives us versatility and many options? Menez. And he is $0M.
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I'm all for dropping Bonucci trust me.
But rather than sign Cerci, why couldn't we just sell Bonucci for 10-15M and combine that with the 15-20M for Cerci and go after a real top class winger?
For me, if you change formation, you have to go all out and do it properly.
I agree with you, Tevez-Llorente-Cerci is solid. But so is our 3-5-2. Could it be an improvement? Yes. How much? Maybe not much. That's the problem. Both scenarios we are just "solid". We are just re-arranging the parts but using money to do so.
Teams are lining up on the wings Ronaldo/Bale/Di Maria... Robben/Ribery...Reus/Kuba...Hazard/Willian/Schurrle...Koke/Arda...Neymar/Alexis/Pedro...
And we are going to blow a significant investment on Cerci? The guy already had his shot at Fiorentina and Roma. Now he's playing a 100% counter-attacking style with no defensive responsibility and having the year of his life. Signings like Cerci just re-arrange the parts on the ship.
You know who else gives us versatility and many options? Menez. And he is $0M.
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I'm all for dropping Bonucci trust me.
But rather than sign Cerci, why couldn't we just sell Bonucci for 10-15M and combine that with the 15-20M for Cerci and go after a real top class winger?
For me, if you change formation, you have to go all out and do it properly.
I agree with you, Tevez-Llorente-Cerci is solid. But so is our 3-5-2. Could it be an improvement? Yes. How much? Maybe not much. That's the problem. Both scenarios we are just "solid". We are just re-arranging the parts but using money to do so.
We can offer quags and Vucinic to them!, which is not a terrible deal as both are interesting players to have for any team and they are far from finished.
We kill 2 birds in one shot, as we get Cerci and INmobile and get rid of quags and Vuc, having to pay maybe some money too.
Everyone stays in turin and everyone is happy.
Go for him too. Marotta style.
Anything,,, man...anything we get will be an improvement from Isla
We kill 2 birds in one shot, as we get Cerci and INmobile and get rid of quags and Vuc, having to pay maybe some money too.
Everyone stays in turin and everyone is happy.
Go for him too. Marotta style.
Anything,,, man...anything we get will be an improvement from Isla
Yeah I realize that. Bonucci won't be sold because none will call for him and we'd have to replace him somehow anyway (I can't see Conte going into the season with just 3 CBs).
IMO there's only one way for a top class winger to come: selling Pogba. I agree we should aim for someone better but I just can't see it. We'll most probably bring back Immobile and buy that Pereyra guy as CM backup. How much will be left for the winger? With sales of players liek Quag, Vucinic and Padoin we won't fetch too much money. Even Isla's half won't bring too much cash unfortunately.
IMO there's only one way for a top class winger to come: selling Pogba. I agree we should aim for someone better but I just can't see it. We'll most probably bring back Immobile and buy that Pereyra guy as CM backup. How much will be left for the winger? With sales of players liek Quag, Vucinic and Padoin we won't fetch too much money. Even Isla's half won't bring too much cash unfortunately.
Yeh, because of that we need to find nice player swapping deals and get everyone happy.
IN torino those 2 will have plenty of playing time and will not have to move on with their families somewhere else. They can relaunch their careers there.
And because our finances, i feel that selling pogba is the only solution.... unless Marotta and the board try to wait a little longer and continue peny pinching deals until th new TV and sponsor deals arrive. Then and only then we will be able to buy someone with big money.
We are now in the reds, and while we are reducing our expenses...Juventus as a team is still not creating revenue as a business.
IN torino those 2 will have plenty of playing time and will not have to move on with their families somewhere else. They can relaunch their careers there.
And because our finances, i feel that selling pogba is the only solution.... unless Marotta and the board try to wait a little longer and continue peny pinching deals until th new TV and sponsor deals arrive. Then and only then we will be able to buy someone with big money.
We are now in the reds, and while we are reducing our expenses...Juventus as a team is still not creating revenue as a business.
If we sell Pogba then Cerci should be at the bottom of our wish list, but if by some chance Pogba commits to us then we need to be very smart in the way we do business. I don't believe Cerci is our "creative winger solution" that will make conte change his tactics permanently with him being upfront next to tevez and llorente. But I do see him being the replacement for Pepe's role in this team as per Conte's first season at the club.
The question is whether he is worth 15 or 20m...also are we better off trying to get immobile back as llorente's back up? We can talk about cuadrado and it may be possible to do but again, what will he cost and if he does join I'm sure it will mean a permanent change for conte.
Then you have Menez for free....Pereyra who would be cheaper and looks very promising.
I'm just not so sure why the club would have a hard on for Cerci.
The question is whether he is worth 15 or 20m...also are we better off trying to get immobile back as llorente's back up? We can talk about cuadrado and it may be possible to do but again, what will he cost and if he does join I'm sure it will mean a permanent change for conte.
Then you have Menez for free....Pereyra who would be cheaper and looks very promising.
I'm just not so sure why the club would have a hard on for Cerci.
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