Agricola and Giraudo acquitted (3 Viewers)

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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#21
mark77 said:
As for the allegations of EPO use, the Court found there to be no case to answer.
wait a minute. Basically, the court said they couldn't apply the 1989 (sporting fraud) law on this case, so there was no legal base to convict Agricola & Giraudo.

But the court hasn't stated that there has bee no EPO use between '94 and '98...
 

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isha00

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Jun 24, 2003
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#22
mark77 said:
http://www.radioradio.it/live/live.htm

buch of Romanisti spitting on Juve every day. My guess is that Juve will have them pulled of the air along with Roma's magazine "Il Romanista". :D
Let's hope so!
I really want to read the first page of the Romanista tomorrow :biggrin:

Thanks for the link!




Chiappero (one of the lawyers), after the judge pronounced the sentence, took his cell phone to show, with its "desktop", how he felt. Want to see the desktop? :agree:


http://tinypic.com/imm5br.jpg

:biggrin::weee:
 

isha00

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Jun 24, 2003
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#23
Geof said:
wait a minute. Basically, the court said they couldn't apply the 1989 (sporting fraud) law on this case, so there was no legal base to convict Agricola & Giraudo.

But the court hasn't stated that there has bee no EPO use between '94 and '98...
No, the court has stated there was no Epo use and that giving the other medicaments to the players wasn't illegal. :)
 

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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#24
isha00 said:
No, the court has stated there was no Epo use and that giving the other medicaments to the players wasn't illegal. :)
now that's good news :weee: :weee: :weee:

I wonder how Zdenek Zeman feels right now. he's probably on th ephone with Rumenigge, complaining about the Juve mafia!!
 

isha00

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Jun 24, 2003
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#25
Geof said:
now that's good news :weee: :weee: :weee:

I wonder how Zdenek Zeman feels right now. he's probably on th ephone with Rumenigge, complaining about the Juve mafia!!
Naaah, he had a crisis and now he's shaking and throwing up all over the place :sick:
 
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Mark

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  • Thread Starter #28
    isha00 said:
    Let's hope so!
    I really want to read the first page of the Romanista tomorrow :biggrin:

    Thanks for the link!




    Chiappero (one of the lawyers), after the judge pronounced the sentence, took his cell phone to show, with its "desktop", how he felt. Want to see the desktop? :agree:


    http://tinypic.com/imm5br.jpg

    :biggrin::weee:
    yeah I know. :D
     

    Eaglesnake_1

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    Mar 28, 2004
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    #29
    Giraudo words after the absolution:

    Questa è una vittoria anche in nome delle nostre vittorie che qualcuno aveva messo in discussione in questi ultimi sette anni. Giriamo a testa alta. Qualcosa da dire a Zeman? C'è una sentenza, l'importante è che la legga bene. Non mi aspetto scusa dalla Procura, ma dai media e dalle persone che stimo sì e a chi ha esagerato chiederemo di risarcirci. Non temo l'eventuale terzo grado. Il dottor Agricola? Non è mai stato in discussione perché eravamo certi della qualità del suo lavoro". Per poi aggiungere: "Vorrei che fossero qui con noi l'avvocato Gianni Agnelli, il dottor Umberto e l'avvocato Vittorio Chiusano. Loro hanno visto l'inizio di questa brutta vicenda e non hanno potuto assistere al trionfo della giustizia".
    "Il blasone della Juventus è integro", ha dichiarato l'avvocato Anna Chiusano, difensore di Giraudo. Il legale ha confermato che "il fatto non costituisce reato perché la legge 401 del 1989 non può essere applicata in quanto non è dimostrata l'alterazione delle prestazioni con la somministrazione dei medicinali. Viene meno, dunque, tutto il castello accusatorio". "Dopo tanti anni - ha aggiunto - c'è soddisfazione in particolare per la memoria di mio padre (l'avvocato Vittorio, ndr) che della Juventus è stato anche presidente. Il nostro blasone ne esce pulito".
     

    Maresca

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    Aug 23, 2004
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    #33
    Bettega: "Questa vittoria è anche per i tifosi"
    15 12 2005
    Il vicepresidente della Juve, Roberto Bettega, commenta la sentenza doping: "E' un momento molto importante per la Juventus. Sono contentissimo per i nostri giocatori e per i tifosi, che in questo anni hanno vissuto quello che abbiamo passato noi, ma che in noi hanno sempre creduto. Questa vittoria e' anche per loro".


    bettega says this victory is also for the fans who allways belived in the difficult years. :weee: :weee: :weee:

    well, thanks bettega..;)
     

    Maresca

    Senior Member
    Aug 23, 2004
    8,235
    #34
    Moggi: "Fallito il tentativo di infangare le nostre vittorie"
    15 12 2005
    Luciano Moggi, direttore generale della Juventus, commenta con soddisfazione la sentenza di assoluzione per Antonio Giraudo, amministratore delegato bianconero, e il medico sociale Riccardo Agricola nel processo di appello sul doping.

    "Il tentativo di infangare le nostre vittorie è fallito e gli scudetti e le coppe conquistati sul campo sono lì a dimostrarlo".
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    I don´t understand this exactly, somebody translate?? please
     

    isha00

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    Jun 24, 2003
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    #36
    Eaglesnake_1 said:
    Giraudo words after the absolution:

    Questa è una vittoria anche in nome delle nostre vittorie che qualcuno aveva messo in discussione in questi ultimi sette anni. Giriamo a testa alta. Qualcosa da dire a Zeman? C'è una sentenza, l'importante è che la legga bene. Non mi aspetto scusa dalla Procura, ma dai media e dalle persone che stimo sì e a chi ha esagerato chiederemo di risarcirci. Non temo l'eventuale terzo grado. Il dottor Agricola? Non è mai stato in discussione perché eravamo certi della qualità del suo lavoro". Per poi aggiungere: "Vorrei che fossero qui con noi l'avvocato Gianni Agnelli, il dottor Umberto e l'avvocato Vittorio Chiusano. Loro hanno visto l'inizio di questa brutta vicenda e non hanno potuto assistere al trionfo della giustizia".
    "Il blasone della Juventus è integro", ha dichiarato l'avvocato Anna Chiusano, difensore di Giraudo. Il legale ha confermato che "il fatto non costituisce reato perché la legge 401 del 1989 non può essere applicata in quanto non è dimostrata l'alterazione delle prestazioni con la somministrazione dei medicinali. Viene meno, dunque, tutto il castello accusatorio". "Dopo tanti anni - ha aggiunto - c'è soddisfazione in particolare per la memoria di mio padre (l'avvocato Vittorio, ndr) che della Juventus è stato anche presidente. Il nostro blasone ne esce pulito".
    Yes, but (always from the same article, I think):

    Secondo la prima lettura del dispositivo della sentenza, i giudici hanno ritenuto che non si potesse applicare la legge 401 del 1989 (la frode sportiva) per 'uso di farmaci alla Juventus. La Corte, infatti, ha stabilito che "il fatto non è previsto dalla legge come reato". Quanto all'uso di Epo, "il fatto non sussiste".

    :weee:
     
    Jul 5, 2005
    2,653
    #37
    I dont give any sence to them. They dont like tha Juve has good perfomance this year and they want to make bad affect to our players and team. We need to be most united this time and mostly the coach and players.
     

    olkiller

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    Sep 9, 2002
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    #38
    Well of all our latest victories, this has to be the greatest. I read the good news before I got on my train...Hope we'll celebrate this with victory against Lazio Roma. :D
     

    isha00

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    Jun 24, 2003
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    #39
    And, finally, after a day, they put the statements in the English version of Juventus.it!

    The comments on the absolution sentence

    http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=6452

    Juventus chief executive officer Antonio Giraudo and the club doctor Riccardo Agricola, held today a press conference to commentate the absolution sentence. These are their statements


    Dr. Antonio Giraudo

    "Today is was a very important day in the history of this society and I would have wanted Advocate Agnelli, Doctor Agnelli and Advocate Chiusano to be here with us as well, since they saw the beginning of this bad adventure and couldn't see the
    triumph of justice".

    "I would like to thank the lawyers that followed us in these latest years, during which we have been offended and mudded for a legal theorem that the judges have destroyed as far as merit and right are concerned. The mud that was thrown at us is the worst thing that could be done to whoever does our job. We had severe damages to our image and I am thinking about who will pay them back to us. We will leave no stone unturned with who has behaved unfairly towards Juventus".

    "Today there was the victory of Juventus, of two persons, as well as of the whole Italian sport, of which our club is top representative. Now we would like other aspects of our world to be more delved into, as the court of Turin did to us . I hope so because I am in love with our sport and I would like maximum transparency".


    Dr. Riccardo Agricola

    "It has been thirteen months since the first sentence and back then I said that I would have liked to verify if the legal experiment carried on at my back would have kept the same strength in the various judicial degrees. Today I can say it is over,
    with the collapse of the prosecuting castle".

    "This sentence comforts me but it does not pay back of the seven years and two months that have destroyed me, physically and morally. I will get better, but wha happened proves that before acting in a certain way, some people should think about it not once, but a thousand times".

    Marginally the press conference also vice-president Roberto Bettega and general manager Luciano Moggi expressed their satisfaction.


    Roberto Bettega

    "It is a very important moment for Juventus. I am very happy for our players and our supporters, who have lived what we have been through in these latest couple of years, but haven't always believed in us. This victory is also for them".


    Luciano Moggi

    "The attempt of breaking our victories has failed and the championships and cups won on the pitch are there to prove it".
     

    isha00

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    Jun 24, 2003
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    #40
    Giraudo's statements



    http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=6456

    (ANSA) - Turin, December 15th – “In the future we will be very rough”, especially towards the “so-called scientists” that are called during the trials. Juventus chief executive officer, Antonio Giraudo, spoke again about the absolution of yesterday’s appeal in the trial that saw him accused of doping together with the club doctor, Riccardo Agricola. He did it during an interview for “Radio Republica”. Giraudo got upset with “some disqualifying and factious characters. We will be very tough, especially with those individuals and we will try to protect ourselves”. “We consider the case closed – Giraudo added – the sentence purview is exceptional and it definitely clears what was a theorem made up by Guariniello, together with some so-called scientists that should rather be silent. However today, doctor D’Onofrio, surveyor of the judge, showed with statements on the newspapers, with his interventions, a faction he should be ashamed of. According to Giraudo, the one of the Prosecution was “a theorem with no basis, as shown by the sentence. Because the sentences have to be respected, everyone should respect them. Even those people that are called scientists during the trials keep completely different positions, opposite one to the other”. (ANSA)
     

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