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  1. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    i know. i actually wrote "again", then deleted it and rephrased it, because i personally would not value the world cup that much if i came in as emergency replacement of the replacement(Materazzi) for the player everybody wanted to see in his place (Alessandro Nesta). he was kind of the padoin...
  2. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    barza is not a scrub who thinks "hey, i won something 10 years ago, i am satisfied". this was probably the last time he was still kind of in his "peak" able to perform properly with the Gigi+BBC setup. In two years others may come and it will probably never be so easy to win international...
  3. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    didn't i already tell you i am not looking for nit picking teeny internet wars ? go back playing with your toddler friends, if you are only able to argument on that level. and to be back to the topic: today we saw who was world class or better who was not. draxler basically shit his pants...
  4. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    romario and baggio were kind of the same time range and baggio was second striker while romario was prima punto ... no problem for them both being in the worlds best squad ;) again who would have benchend ronaldinho in his prime ? nobody and then you had kaka who as well was world class, you...
  5. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    where is padoWin when you need him ? should have definitely be our midfield regista, lol
  6. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    alright, ronaldo was disputed ? ronaldinho was ? romario ? zidane ? matthäus ? gerd müller ? you know who you never would name in the reigns of those ? right, hazard ;) and regarding messi you are right. 55 goals in 113 games for his country is not enough for messi. he should definitely better...
  7. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    dude, i was a del piero fan myself and have several jerseys of him, but that does not make me blind to the fact that i have seen other players in the national team that did way better. on a club level is one thing and for that we can be grateful to have had him but for italy he never made it and...
  8. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    sry, then i did not make myself clear enough. for me : world class = undisputed best on his position. this is accumulated by being the leader in a difficult game against a superior opponent. just remember balotelli vs. germany in 2012. balotelli scored two great goals against all odds for a...
  9. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    eden has 36 goals and 41 assists in 147 ligue 1 games. luca toni has 38 goals and 15 assists in only 60 bundesliga games. is luca toni suddenly or ever was world class (given that bundesliga is better than the french league) ? just the numbers do not tell the whole story. same goes for...
  10. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    most of the time the common understanding around here is that the french league is not that strong and that the premier league is kind of overrated, but when it fit's your bill a title in the french league is suddenly something valuable. since i do not give the title "world class player for...
  11. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    what has talent to do with it ? is balotelli or cassano world class ? it is what you make out of it.The fact that from naming 4 players who are allegedly without a shadow of a doubt world class you are suddenly down to one player says it all really. i give you that hazard is as close to being...
  12. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    the term "worldclass" is not really defined so they might fit your definition, but for me they wouldn't. back in the day people like zidane, ronaldo (the brazilian one), roberto carlos were called world class and by that meaning that if you picked up the best team in the world those guys get...
  13. v1rtu4l

    Euro 2016 General Discussion Thread

    because they get overconfident by consistently getting shitty qualification groups the last 20 years. most of thosse frigging "top scorers" that have many international goals are only that big because germany trash minnows like moldavia 8:1 or something. it is incredible how often germany...