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I understood why you used him, but the point is that he is just as good as an example as Jan Ullrich or Iban Mayo, you can never be 100% sure that he's not doping free. That he's the best doesn't matter at all IMO.

I don't see how any athlete can really be more of an excellent example to use against drugs than any other athelete that hasn't been caught using doping. You can't be "cleaner" that clean, if you know what I mean... I have a feeling the whole doping thing is a lot more complex than the...