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lol, I'm sure you've done this several times already this thread. The post clearly states "there will still be dumbfubcks..." - how is that an attack against the whole of the palestinian people?

Ian, you are the daddy :cool:

What the fuck?! ARREST THIS MAN!! :shocked: :eyepatch:

Its your decision, but I think you'll find atheism has many perks. For one you can shag whoever you want and for two you can get trolleyed whenever you want. Sweet!

way to justify blowing yourself up.. :toast:

Alright then, if what I was aying was all tripe then where's the proof that allah, mohammed or whoever else actually existed? I'm not insulting them, its an opinion. I think that these religions have no basis in reality and are all entirely made up. Thats not an insult, its an opinion, which i...

sorry, I can't help it if you were talking toss mate :D I just happened to disagree with your reasoning on that one. Must be my pigheaded pro-western approach to life, I'm sorry.

Yes, alright but I'm hardly going to be stupid enough to do that. I tend to have the opposite opinion to the majority on most issues so believing what the media says ain't on the itinerary!!

Yes, you're right. I know all about the crusades etc, and its true they were done in the name of god which is very much akin to whats happening now. The difference being that its a current problem. Christians have for the most part grown up, practise their faith with little fuss and certainly...

so they hate the tories, big deal thats hardly relevant when we're talking about the middle east. The BBC is hardly one sided on those stories. Otherwise they wouldn't report the alleged brutalities by British soliders, you wouldn't have the regular slot on newsnight "baghdad blogger" etc..

oh for heavens sake.. anyone with half a brain can tell that I'm not speaking for all westerners, just offering a personalised western viewpoint on things

Its VERY high in fact, I'd wager much more so than your own in any case. Yes, I do happen to believe that arabs (not all, but more than you are willing to concede) are willing to blow themselves up in the name of allah. People go on about how its a peaceful religion but there's only so many...

A valiant effort, but blowing yourself up can never be justified imo, you've got to have some sort of problem to even consider it. People are murdered all over the world, race hate crimes happen all the time in the UK - can't think of one time where the victim's dad has blown himself up as a...

I don't recall ever speaking for you, and I'll post where I please, thanks. If I weren't on here it would just be a bunch of arabs slagging off the west. Someone has got to stick up for the other side of the debate.

AMERICAN media? bothered. Don't read/listen to it. Next. Yes, israel has F16's, nuclear technology.. so what, so do we! Doesn't mean we strap our pilots in and tell them to take as many lives as possible in the name of the lord!

we hear enough about the bloody iraqi point of view right where we are actually. The bbc has excellent unbiased media coverage, enough for me to make my mind up anyway. Now I'm no expert but I seriously doubt we told Saddam he was a-ok to invade kuwait.. in which case why did we end up stopping...

I know, I'm not stupid or anything, I just find it amazing how many arabs/muslims whatever you want to be classed as resort to violence almost as their first resort. It just appears to be incredibly backwards from my pov and I can see why we're worried about hamas being in control of palestine...

To be honest, and in all honesty I mean no offence but from a western viewpoint all the arab nations appear to be as bad as one another. I mean ake Iraq; apparently Saddam was all bad, so we go in there, save you from the tyranny, oppression etc, but instead of being constructive and hlping us...