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I would gladly finish 11th if it means we can have Aguero on the team.

Less mistakes? No way. No, no way. Difficult to think Motta would've been a flaming bag of shit, when he was generally regarded as a pretty good signing. Aquilani was seen as a particularly astute signing. But Marotta will still be held responsible for their failures.

Why not? And if it's about semantics, then he had a good first 6 months, then followed 1 1/2 seasons of drama-comedy. If it's he to blame or the team around him, it's Sicko's responsibility.

You can't say use he didn't do as support :D Marotta didn't have us finish lower in the standings each season than the season before; bought Diego, overpaid and didn't have the right team for him to play in. Overpaid for Melo, and again, his poor season was in large part, due to his midfield...

I'll need more convincing.

That's an exaggeration. Did Secco do anything right?

Yeah, his contract at Stuttgart was mutually terminated.

Wasn't he released from Stuttgart?

It was good that we offloaded Camo before it was too late.

All that is true. Still, Krasic had an overall better impact.

I think you're missing my point. I'm not arguing the reasons that Diego failed, or that Krasic is the better player. The only thing I'm saying is that Krasic's season was better than Diego's. That's all. He could've been taking roids for all I know, maybe that's why. But yeah.

I guess we are forgetting Diego. This always happens. When we look at Grosso play, we forget how bad Molinaro was. When we look at Gyrgera, we forget how bad Zebina was. When we look at Sissoko, we forget how bad Nocerino was. We forget how bad Secco was now that we've got Marotta. I would...

:howler: Yeah, yeah. That's what I meant. No. Where the hell did that even come from? I don't care about what was expected. What I'm saying in that Krasic contributed more to Juve's attack (goals, assists, getting the ball into the final third, being dangerous, overall play) than Diego (takes...

See post #56.

Krasic had the same clueless Iaquinta and half a season of Amauri, an "invisible" Marchisio and Aqua's form wasn't even tha long. More like 2 months. Both teams finished 7th, but Krasic contributed much more. This team without Krasic would've finished in the lower half of the table. Maybe...

Unlike Diego - not blaming the guy, could be the system, coach, or whatever- Krasic actually contributed a lot to our attack. He has some pretty decent numbers. I don't know it offhand but I feel safe to say that his goals/ assists tally is a bit more than Diego's. Numbers aren't everything of...

Nonsense.

Sounds like this. "Ranieri is the worst. We can't do worse than him... Ferrara is the worst coach we've ever had. Can't really get worse... Can't wait for Zaccheroni to leave. Anybody will be better than him... Delneri is the worst coach in Juventus history."

Yes Conte is a big gamble. I wish they would at least try to justify that move. Quag was a good panic buy. Credit where it's due.

For me, Marotta's worst move so far has been Delneri. Easier said with hindsight though. I don't know about the rest of you, but I didn't expect a 7th place finish. Martinez with a close second. Pepe... Mehhh. Traore was WTF; at least we didn't pay for him. Aquilani was a good move imo, even if...