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Disregarding any animal rights arguments: -Meat production takes up a lot of resources is extremely inefficient in terms of calory production (basically you have to feed animals a lot of plant calories to gain one meat calory, how much depending on the animal of course, beef is pretty bad...

I'm not even Vegetarian or Vegan myself, but there are plenty of reasons for not eating meat, or eating very little meat.

The discussion wasn't about his abilities or that X expected him to flop, just about his hypothetical resale value should he fail here :D

Nah, that doesn't really help us. Bar Barca and Real, who'll have no interest in a flop, Spanish clubs are just as broke. Well I guess all arguments have pretty much been layed out at this point. I'm afraid we just gotta agree to disagree, at least until history proves one of us right, but...

Like who? Tbh, I can't think of any comparable players (young unproven talents) going to big clubs for big money, then flopping hard :P Perhaps Lamela, and people here would be mad happy if we signed him for just 10 million ;) But without any additional examples, midlevel clubs would be very...

Quaresma was older than them, and a couple years back, inflation. You can find an excuse for everyone. Here's another one: Pato, 15 million to Corinthias. How about you give me an example proving your point?

Latest is 35, but yes.

Robinho flopped hard at City, couldn't even cut it at Santos when he was loaned there and Milan paid 18 million. Carroll went from Liverpool to West Ham for 19 million last year. Inter got 8 million for fucking Quaresma, who flopped as hard as you possibly could. All of them were older than 24...

Wut? They'd be 23/24, still not on high wages. Of course they'd be worth 10 million give or take.

Nah, I think Osvaldo is pretty much exactly the type of CF Conte is looking for, just of very low quality. - - - Updated - - - I'd say even if they flop really hard, you could still rather easily sell them for ~10 million each in two seasons time.

This again :sergio:

30 million buy back :shifty:

I mean I ain't disagreeing, but what got they to do with it? :lol:

Ahhhhhm one thing I know about Morata, he ain't slow.

The meltdown :lol: Don't think so, as I've said a few pages further back, I haven't really seen Morata that much apart from the CL final (where he was mediocre), some U21 games last year (where he absolutely bossed), and perhaps one or two La Liga cameos. Consequently, I don't really...

I see a lot of @Dule90 coming the next season...

Nah. I'll judge this transfer when I see this kid playing consistently, so far I've mostly had to make up my mind about him based on other peoples reports, which ranged from "best young striker out there, next big thing", to "mediocre bench material, only popular because he plays for Real"...

Moggi doesn't know shit about Juves internal dealings anymore.

Loan with option to buy makes great sense.

Juve and Morata, sitting on a tree...