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Well we should have moved him when we hired a coach who categorically does not use his best positions and was never going to put him on the CL list.

It's common to just blame the player here even though we have established a bit of a track record of these situations.

Sell already. We use a regista and B2B mids. He is neither of these things. How much more obvious can it be?

We were too busy trying to sell Dybala to realize that Can was even on the roster :shifty: Could have sold him and bought a fullback or winger. Instead you tell him he's part of the team but the coach actually has no plans for him. It's just poor management.

I mean, when you look at the alternatives, who else can you drop? Matuidi and Khedira are basically starters. Khedira looks ahead of Can as a like for like solution. Matuidi is ahead because he offers something no one else does.

Looks a bit quicker than he did at this time last year.

Ya but Bentancur was playing B2B all year. In that context, I agree he plays it too safe. That's just his limitation though as a B2B. Not quite good enough to take those risks. As a DM it's fine to play it safe. Can is better as a B2B. Neither is ideal IMO.

Too many touches on the ball. Head is down a lot. One touch passing is not great. If he gets pressed, he could be in a lot of trouble. Everything is a bit too slow. For example, even though Bentancur is still a prospect, he plays with his head up. When the ball is coming to him, he does not...

I think he's below average there. Over the course of an entire season, I wouldn't want him there. For a game once in a while, fine.

DM in 4-2-3-1. CB in 3-5-2.

Ya I just find it funny he is compared to Khedira when to me he is almost the opposite.

Comparing him to Khedira lol. When you run into Can you fall down and he takes the ball.

I can't think of a better role for him than this one right now. Playing RCB in attack and DM in defence. Doing Bonucci's job to smash Morata over and over is perfect.

Ya like s4tch said, it was basically 4-3-and then whoever could be bothered to get back between Dybala/Mandzukic to give us a 4th man in midfield. Otherwise, we barely even had a defensive shape until Berna came on. I would say it was a bit of a practice session in terms of his movements. He...

Just quickly googling, there's a metro.co.uk piece which references a disagreement with Klopp about his preferred position. Then in subsequent articles, one from FootballItalia, it's usually just mentioned in passing how "now Can will be able to play his preferred position at Juventus". So it's...

I don't think it was ever presented in a derogatory way. It was seen more as a professional disagreement, not as an indictment on Can's character. I would say most of the British pieces on Can were pretty complimentary, lauding him for how professional he was while seeing out his contract...

Ya there were always strong rumours that he didn't want to play B2B. And imagine how much worse it is under Klopp with all the counter-pressing and short area acceleration you need.

I always kind of hated how we put him straight into regista. I wonder how this midfield would work: Matuidi-Can-Pjanic At least worth trying surely.

Yes but Ronaldo doesn't always play in the middle and we don't see movement like that available for Pjanic. Like how I said, it's either because he's choosing more sideways passes or the options are just not there. And I've always been the one to say the passer needs an option to aim for...

I still like Pjanic.