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Exactly. But if his injury forces Ramos to play CM then I'm all for it.

Messi needs speed just like Ronaldo to get into the box. Messi doesn't feint his way past 4 guys. He BURSTS past them after he feints. He is just as dependent as Ronaldo IMO. Iniesta can get past players but he can't get all the way into those vital areas anymore and that's why his influence...

I really don't think so. For me, Ronaldo can score from situations that don't always require you to beat people with the ball or with pace. For example, he can score off a dead ball header. He can score with his back to goal, playing centrally, more like a target man. He can score from outside...

Actually I would argue Messi's impact is more reliant on speed than Ronaldo. If Messi loses his speed then it will take away his ability to beat opponents completely. Whereas Ronaldo without speed can still be used as a target man due to his height, strength, leaping ability and finishing...

Suarez changed the team IMO. To accommodate Suarez properly they had to adapt the team dynamics, including Messi's role and in order to properly utilize Suarez, you can't play possession all game. And it has been for the better.

I didn't say anything bad about Messi so relax. You have to be an idiot to deny his dribbling ability. But am I allowed to comment on how soft the defenders looked, just as a general observation?

Those are some piss poor challenges. If even one of them slid he probably wouldn't have made it across half, let alone megged a whole team.

And destroyed Bayern like they weren't even there.

I would like to see Messi change leagues more so I can see him play for another team besides Barca. I think there are big advantages his teammates provide him that he would get in few teams. I mean, to see 3 or 4 players running in behind the defense when Messi has the ball is quite...

All those ball watching defenders. :tuttosport:

Ya they have better depth this year. Everyone is not paying them any attention like usual but they look just as good as last year. :shifty:

Absolute and complete destruction. R. Madrid should have bought some grinta for games like this. They just laid down and died. They think they can walk to the CL because last year they won it but they forget they were saved by Ramos' header at the death. Atletico might be better off than...

Atletico has 3 wins and 2 draws in their last 5 games vs. Real Madrid. :shifty:

Conte clears his browser history every night because he doesn't want his wife to see he was fapping to Atletico's grinta.

Godin and Garcia are fucking lethal on set pieces. Godin is a monster. Raped Bonucci at the World Cup with a header.

Simeone showing how to defend without playing pussy football. :tuttosport: To me, he's a top coach.

A bit below. But Falcao was miles better than those 2 by himself.

He had 10 goals and 7 assists or thereabouts. He was still good 2 years ago.

Just 2 years ago they had Falcao and Diego Costa.

No. That's crazy ^