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We didn´t beat Mantova, we beat Modena. And it doesn´t really matter we didn´t beat Napoli or Rimini. Those were away games and in both games we were unlucky. Juventus was always known for winning Scudetto on small games (or weaker teams). But I agree, winning against bigger teams gives...

:agree: See La Stampa grades. Anyway, I watched the game. Amazing performance from Marchisio and solid from Legro.

Done.

See previous post.

Then it is time for new thread: Juventus vs Pescara Let´s get on to it.

We are getting off-topic.

They could not punish 6 clubs without any evidence. But we were severely punished, a lot more severely than the others. That is strange my friends, and that is why this Scandal has been marked as a pharse. Juventus was punished for other´s mistakes.

But only 10 rounds has past, you cannot be sure they will be topping the table after 30 games.

Well said, Sateeh, as always.:D

Marchisio is a clear Centre midfielder, neither Defensive or Attacking.

You should not be asking me what matches were fixed, but some of them were at least suspicious. I could say this thing about Inter setting up the Scandal is also a myth. I´m not 100% sure that we cheated, but it is a way for me to handle the fact we are playing in Serie B. It hurts me...

That´s because we are in Serie B and Milan and Fiorentina have their points docked.

So you still think we are innocent?:disagree: Why would I stop supporting Juve if some two corrupt Directors were cheating?

I understand that and that is not what I am saying. But people expect us to destroy all our Serie B opponents and then win the Scudetto instantly after coming back toSerie A. That is not piece of cake. We have good squad for promotion, but we will need some good signings if we want to...

Exactly what I´ve said, mate. Just look at this draw and imagine Milan were on other side - that´s like this game was. And it´s true we´ll need hell lot of improvements on this team because this team is average for Serie A and my expectations would be low.

:agree: Thanks for understanding! +rep

There wasn´t any spirit ever. Juventus was always cheating.:D

That is exactly what I am saying. We need to start building a team, but with our current players my expectations are low.

So what does this mean if Juventus jersey has special meaning? Nottingham Forest shirt has special meaning too, but they have crappy players! Let´s face it - WE DO NOT have world-class players anymore! Chiellini, Legro, Balza, Birindelli, Kovač, Boumsong, Paro, Zanetti, Marchisio and...

I´m not happy, but I´m satisfied. Let me ask you one question: Would you like more to beat Napoli away and don´t get promoted OR would you like a draw with Napoli and get promoted? BTW. We played a good game, only our poor finishing cost us the victory.