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Actually Juve won't get weaker, this is wrong logic; however they will face stronger competition.

I wanted a more balanced competition, another balanced competition for lesser quality teams and why not a third one? My point was that the way UEFA are going is definitely going to make even a bigger gap.

This is what I've been trying to say since page 2.

This is where there were three different competitions in Europe where champions compete with each other, cup winners compete with each other and other top teams compete with each other and this is what I want back.

So you are fine with now with Italy sending only Juve and Milan to the competition and let them play Zaghreb and Skonto? Where Fiorentina and Inter go to play in another competition where they compete with Metz and Liverpool.

How do you know? Yes no one will because they will never be given the chance because there already "better" teams who have already bought players whose jerseys will be sold.

Let Skonto play Fiorentina ten times with fair TV coverage and in the 11th time they will match Liverpool.

You dared use "better" one more time. Who defined better in your case?

You should have stayed on what I understood because your explanation is ten fold worse.

Actually it is you who's the donkey if you consider any football player that does not play in the best four teams in Serie A a donkey. And you won't back up my idea because you are already a victim. I say UEFA have achieved their goal with you. Now they will try even more to get more fish in...

Actually, someone forbid them from being in it because in Holland people would rather watch Liverpool than Dynamo Bucharest thus Heineken is willing to pump in more money for that sake.

So now you lowered your standard from actually winning the cup to reaching the semi final, I guess we are getting somewhere in this discussion.

I thought we were talking about money management here.

How many underdogs beat favourites and made the headlines?

Why? Because a team from England's second division can beat the Premiership leader? What a bad image for football!! Why does a team from the second division even bother play? Seven won't watch the game.

It is all up to which organization can raise more sponsor money that make the simple minded fall into their campaigns; that organization would host a "better" competition. Either way the poor teams (I refuse to call them small and poor just because I compare them to others) will be getting...

Or wait, they disappear because they don't play "good" football. Why do we need them anymore anyway?

It is only Real Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Villarreal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Milan, Inter, Roma, Juventus, Bayern München, Ajax and Lyon that are good at managing money. All the others are just morons that will end up bankrupt. :faq1:

It does mean something and it can mean more!! If a Derry fans is as happy as a Juve fan in your example, how happy will he be if they reach the 1/16th of the cup and play Real Madrid instead of Fiorentina? You don't have to answer that was rhetorical. The TV coverage you talked about...