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Btw, if my memory serves me right, this game was the last straw of the 352 by default in europe. After this game, allegri wnet morata tevez in 4312 at home and the rest is history :touched:

Naa, i have little hope that anything will change unless we start losing hardcore and i dont wan that.... but at the same time i dont want hmi to continue with the 352

what that means?

Well, balance is also required. Both ends suck. Is not good to be dominating crappy serie A and choking in europe... but is also bad to be doing good in the CL and missing the next years edition (unless maybe you win the whole thing, but still missing CL one year is too much for a top team).

They should have realised that since long time ago. We are truly sucking

And i even can understand some of that idea. It doesnt sound totally crazy to continue using a plan that has won scudettos, but theres a lot more to it than just winning scudetos and 102 points. Thats when a top coach needs to put his mark i think. When someone needs to sit down and say...

Dont ask me why. I think thats the difference between seasoned top coaches and average ones, specially if they are italian with italian mentality. Coaches like mourinho , bielsa, carletto etc would have enought guts to change things if they believe they could work in certain way. Maybe allegri...

He is afraid to change a "winning" formation. Thats why. I dont know if he is being pressured by the boad to continue the conte plan for this season...or that he is afraid of backlash in case the results start to go wrong in italy with a new formation. At this point, im starting to believe he...

IMO he did that to cover is tactical flaws. He dont wanted the responsibility of the fail to fall on his shoulders. Better blame the refs, calciopoli, 7th places and lack of money. Tactics and mentality? no fuking way. Not for Conte

Dont believe him!. Im here to guide the lost sheeps and see the truth about this underachieving team!

Hey, now seriously UNBANME FROM THE ALLEGRI THREAD. I paid my day of banning - - - Updated - - - :tup:

:P i got uncovered Ima roma fan in reality :D

Yup. He wil never see the light in that position ever again in Juventus. At the very least not constantly. But he is too useful and strong to be benched. Yes, the problems are a lot at the same time. Its just not a matter of "Buy Shaquile" or "fuk 352!" or "mentality" or "Fire Allegri"...but...

Tevez woukd need to adapt. And Asamoah has played as wingback which is even more demanding than playing LB. He can adapt easily to that position. h just needs to defend

On paper yes, we had quality, but make no mistake...we werent an attacking minded powerhouse. We had like a better version of what we have now. A good balance of defensive minded players mixed with real offensive quality in Trez, DP and nedved. Madrid was much better at going forward than us...

:tup: This is the best we can do for now. Mix up Tevez and Prereya with Gio and coman when needed. Llorente and Morata share spoils depending on form. And thats that. It would have been optimal to try this in preseason. But it was scrapped pretty fast after Allegri tasted the sweetness of the...

Lets say we disagree here. In reality we were nothing out of the ordinary either technically speaking. We had some workhorses in that team, Trezeguet was good like always and DP was not having the best form of his career. Outside of a very young Camo, we only had Nedved and Zambrotta who were...

I think thats what everyone is saying here. We are not blaming anyone, as this team is ridiculosly wrong on so many levels for everyone to see. The attitude of Roma after the Juve game is shameful, so dont try to defend it, but i have to admit that at least your team knows how to attack, unlike...

Indeed. Today´s game is less of the chessgame it was before. Because tactics need to be on par with skills and approach. We got skill, but our tactics and approach are totally dated. Italian coaches and their mentality is a major issue. They cling to tha golden era when defensive game shutted...

Its way too easy to play against us. Press us, counter with pacy players, score. Pack the middle of the area onfront of the keeper, and Juventus is done. Way too simple. We take the game on opossition WAY INFERIOR to us. They let us attack and win by grinding. We do not "open" them like a can...