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Obviously that's not what I was asking. And Vidal has made some mistakes often leading to unnecessary pressure.

You're telling me that Vidal is doing the basic things correctly? :shocked:

No, the essence of your argument is that what one player does or doesn't do effects those around him. I'm simply expanding your narrative to fit mine simply because that's what you are doing on a smaller scale. i.e. Ogbonna doesn't track back leads to pressure on other players. Vidal's poor...

But that is the exact narrative you are suggesting :lol:

You may as well say Vidal's piss poor form this season puts added pressure on the defense leading to more goals being leaked. :tup:

we bolded the exact same sentence :lol:

So what happens when we concede? To be more exact, who has been responsible for our goals being conceded? Every single goal we concede is because someone makes a mistake which means some are making more mistakes than others and its ridiculous to blame Ogbonna so much when there are others...

But again, he wasn't the one beaten on the goals was he?

That was more directed at badass regarding his hate for Ogbonna but your points are accurate nonetheless :) - - - Updated - - - But Fiorentina are doing quite well so I'm sure we would have struggled in a league match playing full strength.

Was Ogbonna to blame for any of the goals? Padoin got raped on the first and Marchisio at fault on the second. - - - Updated - - - Welcome back. Agree about the Vidal part. :tup:

But Fiorentina are a great team to watch. I hope they keep playing this well for the rest of the season.

I don't recall a Juve match were SO MANY THINGS went wrong and not our way. I mean it was like the stars were all in unison saying fuck Juventus today.

painful game to watch :lol:

433 :tuttosport:

RUS is back already? :D

Verizon needs to install the internet first. :D - - - Updated - - - :tup: :shocked:

Take it or leave it. :D Should I open it now and you close it until after the game or is that bad luck?

fuuckkkk I get Verizon installed today between 1:45pm and 2:45pm today at our new house...my TV's are still in storage so I would have to stream the game. With the winter storm here in DC they are so gonna be late. :lol: Oh, @Mark...read above so you aren't caught with your pants down when...

:D That's like trying to win a Formula 1 race with a snow-blower and an ice cream cone. - - - Updated - - - fiorentina will treat this as a final and throw everything at us

Excellent. Getting barzagli back to fitness will be great for us.