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he meant the governments

you cant possibly be neutral with that kind of comment, and to be honest i dont think anyone can be when it comes to that issue confused maybe but no way neutral. And i really dont get what you mean by "arabs and muslims"; as for bloodshed the numbers speak for themselves like i said one day...

a LOT of people will argue Hamas is a mossad creation

or maybe be banned from certain areas of the forum, i dont think it would hurt if andy commented on the game tomorrow. On the subject of this thread, I have no doubt in my mind that Israel is slowly braising the pot that will consume it