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Bro you are saying the same thing as me, im just being more dirrect about it lol, of course its humanity that is stopping humanity, but im saying without religion then most problems for humanity go. I know that religion has done some good, but the bad out weighs it SO much, and its because of...

So you basically entirely agree with me?

What about Galen? Who if given access to human corpses could have discovered modern medicine 1500 years before it actually was. OR the baghdad battery? IIRC Einstein was actually agnostic he was jewish by birth and that clung to him.

i thought you were getting confused with WWV1 in the 20s between hawaii and alaska

seriously?

No it isnt, its the day some guys signed a contract to say they were commited to fighting a war against the english because they didnt want to pay tax to the crown, you were a country about 100 years before that.

Dont the vast majority of Juve fans blame all liverpool fans for Heysel? hmm

If americans dont care then why do they celebrate Independence Day every year looking desperatley to show they have some history. And Independence Day is such a fucking cop out. Its a day Americans celebrate the founding fathers signing the decleration of independence:sergio: , whats the fucking...

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Its not ridiculous, Comparing it to juventus fans is a false falicy unless you believe that there is a god in juventus? The reason that people who believe in a faith as those that commit the tradegy/travesty to humanity, is because they are the gateway, without its followers a religion is a cult.

They arent, they are balanced and fair, but because people cannot handle that they get labeled that way. Some guy wrote a poor essay which i have read which was in support of israel, he then got a bad mark and then tried to sue the university for anti semitism. That was one of the cases.

whats disturbing? that they are labeled as that - peoples ignorance, or that they could be seen as that or could even be that?

hmm, i study at aberystwyth, the lecturers that teach the modules have been labeled as anti semites and al queda sympathisers because they are unwilling to persecute islam and only islam in the name 21st century islamiphobia...but who knows. The impression i have got from american students that...

ok, i was just intrigued to see what an islamic perspective on that was, its an analagy i came up with based on the concepts the film 'religulous' by bill maher puts forward. It's good for fucking with the morons that follow christianity.

Fair enough, im not going to debate it with you, i know little about how to debate theism against a muslim because i have so little interest in knowing much about the faith, this will change over the year as two of my modules are about islam and politics next year. I do take exception with the...

yeah, typod, meant to put ze.

I had an open mind about 9/11 i read into, looked at most sources i could, took 4 modules on it at uni, and came to my conclusion.

As you are online, how do you feel about this statement? As you follow such a 'controversial' faith (i think christianity is far far more evil that islam is)

How about we dont go down the route of this and just agree that religion is detromental to the progress of humanity?

sorry to go off topic but. :sergio: 9/11 conspiracies are fucking retarded...loose change is firstly one of THE most offensive films ever made and secondly either using purely circumstancial evidence an example would be they claim proof that a picture of the twin towers with a cross hair over...