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IFFHS had Everton above Juventus in current football rankings.

I wasn't around for the propaganda, so I've never seen any of it. It doesn't matter to me nor my opinions.

And? Some even argue the game in Italy is ultra-defensive now. How about we award more points to the Spanish keepers since their league isn't the best defensively? I hate how people of today act like they know everything by offering excuses for accomplishments back in the day.

When Juventus fans are the counter party, absolutely. I know how ridiculous we can be. It's the same everywhere else and people just can't take things for what they are.

Fair enough. I'm just skeptical over it. Especially when there is such certainty involved.

But Thuram and Cannavaro were some of the best in the world, too. Everything considered it's not such a different situation. Yeah, but you probably haven't seen much of Zoff either. Buffon is the best I've SEEN play, but I haven't seen others like Zoff play. So I have to go more on...

UEFA Cup. But honestly, what makes Buffon better than Zoff? I just want someone to answer it once and for all, along with not including stuff like "he will" in their reasoning. Nothing is certain in life.

But the strange thing about that is Gentile, Scirea and Zoff were all Juve legends. Albeit quite in the past.

Nah, it's all propaganda.

I think the burden of proof is on you, considering Buffon doesn't have anywhere near Zoff's appearance and accomplishment record and Zoff is considered by some as the best of all time.

Yeah, Yashin was all propaganda. Basically like Juventus propaganda with Buffon and Zoff.

But how is Buffon better than Zoff?

:tup:

But Yashin and Banks were fantastic. Some people here must believe Buffon is the greatest keeper of all time then.

Keller > Walter Zenga :strong:

Agreed if I had to pick a player. Hardly. Baggio was fantastic but he's not at that level. Come on now. You could say the same thing about Zico for instance, but we are judging the best player, not club legend. Championships and Cups should be taken with a grain of salt in this...

:D Agreed.

No way people here could answer this question unless you're Tifoso Lou, but I wouldn't trust his opinion so yeah... nobody. Voted for Scirea just to see the results.