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Not going forward, that's for damn sure.

Chiellini for Heinze. What an idiotic move that would be. Good luck finding playing time in that side, Giorgio.

What is your problem with Heinze? You haven't given one good argument against him yet. All you do is think he's crap because he plays in the EPL with no respect whatsoever.

:lol2: That's great.

Andreolli looked absolutely horrid in the recent U-21's, while Criscito looked decent at left-back for the Azzurrini. I don't think he's a left-back and Casiraghi probably used him because he had no other options, but I guarantee you Criscito blows Andreolli out of the water. he certainly...

:D Yeah, I didn't really understand what that was about. Not only George Weah has been amazing for them, but also Youri Djorkaeff and David Ginola. I know Djorkaeff only played one year with Paris Saint-Germain but he scored 17 goals in 43 appearances, something pretty damn good for his type...

He's not world class, no, but he's not average either. That's quite an understatement. Heinze is a very good player that would help our defense quite a lot, and I don't have a clue why people think he's average... probably just because they only payed attention to him during the Milan matches.

I don't agree that Grygera is better than Chiellini and I'm not sure if he's better than Zebina either, we just have to wait and see. Serie A is of course tougher than playing in Holland and Grygera will have to adapt. Moreover, the Dutch members of this forum are not convinced of Grygera, so...

Shut up. I don't like you at all and you are seriously worthless. Please leave. Heinze is useless? Not sure how you think that. If Heinze is useless, so is Chiellini, Boumsong, Grygera, Zebina and Molinaro because the Argentinian is a better stopper than all of them. I don't understand...

I think Heinze is better everywhere than Chiellini, but that doesn't mean the latter cannot become better centrally over the years. Moreover, I think Zebina will be used until we get a grasp on how well Grygera performs.

:disagree: So fucking stupid.

5 Million Pounds for Heinze... you can't get much better than that. Especially when players such as Barzagli and Meira are going for over 10.

:disagree: So you watched the matches against Milan. Great. Congratulations.

That's what people do around here.

Well, if that's the case, he should fit right into Serie A because the pace is much slower.

How does he lack speed? :confused: I honestly think some people are just basing their opinions from when they saw Heinze against Roma and Milan in the Champions League this season.

Hmm clumsy? I've always thought he had decent technique, especially on the tackle.

Tuttosport linked me with Bashar al-Assad the other day. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure where I like Heinze more but I would rather get him now and figure that our later. Playing him centrally would certainly be fine by me. And I really do not know what to think of Grygera because the Dutch members of the forum keep saying he's rubbish, so I don't know. Well...

As somebody already pointed out, Heinze was selected as player of the year by Manure fans and he did have an amazing season that year. He's very talented and is a better player than anybody we have at this point in time... including Chiellini. If Deschamps continues to use Chiellini...