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What does my post have anything to do about comparing Del Piero to Ibrahimovic? What I was saying is that people are having a hard time accepting objective criticism towards Ibrahimovic and Capello. I stated earlier that last year people gave Del Piero lots of criticism and took it too far by...

I concur with Vinni. Whenever someones disagrees with TonyMontana the insults start to fly for some reason. Vinni was just responding to crap written by other posters first...fair game after someone starts something.

Again, people need to get off their Capello high horses and Ibrahimovic saddles. If you are a true supporter of this club you won't put any player in front of it and you will look at things objectively. Last year we had to suffer through Del Piero being bashed day in and day out, therefore I...

Seriously though, what has been said about Zlatan that has been so bad? All I have seen is people saying he was poor today and in other matches, which is reality I'm afraid. When Del Piero had horrible spells last year it was open season with the insults on our Captain, but now since Zlatan is...

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I only look down on people who post complete rubbish and don't look at things objectively. That's a fact.

When I said "oh please" I was responding to a post in which the guy was making assumptions about what Trezeguet thinks of Del Piero and how the latter was not a sufficient partner for David in the past. Obviously statements like that make no sense at all.

Yeah, I concur Martin. That's why I have been disapointed with Zlatan so far this season because it seems he just took a step backwards. His finishing has been horrible and overall play has not been as good as his best of last season.

Can you judge effectiveness in terms of how well Zlatan created space for others and how his dribbling and overall skill created several of our goals? I think not, whoever you are. You just cant live on statistics all the time. Whether you like it or not, Zlatan was the best forward at...

All I ask is stop posting rubbish about me and try to stay objective. I have no agenda here...I see what I see and tell you lot about it. I have nothing against Zlatan and infact he is my favorite forward in the world at the moment. I'm not going to sugar coat what I see out there just...

Stop being a hypocrite and answer questions for a change. Do you want me to show the world how much of a hypocrite you are? I can, you know.

I'm sorry, I don't take advice from you on this subject. And there is nothing wrong with saying "oh please" when what I am responding to is utter crap.

No, I'm not being too harsh on Zlatan. From what we saw last year Zlatan should be hitting the passes he is supposed to and not giving the ball away as much. You would be kidding yourselves if you don't think Zlatan needs to improve...greatly.

Jesus, he has more assists than Zidane in his entire Juventus career. :LOL:

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:rofl: Yeah that's right I'm American, and the Americans on this board know far more about the sport than most, that's for sure. Sergio, Vinman, Incuborossonero, myself...we know the sport like the back of our hands. And hey, we don't have to insult other nationalities to get our opinions...

That's exactly right.

Well yeah, that's where the game is played alright. Yes I did. Zlatan also gave the ball away several times and fouled up a bunch of opportunities he should have done better with. His passing was rather poor especially when he was holding the ball further out from goal. Sure, he does a...

I couldn't give two shits what those papers said about any player....when Totti was sent off last year against some weak side and had a horrible match Corriere Della Sera still gave him a 7.5 for assisting on a friggin corner kick. If you rely on those papers for everything you're opinions will...