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I took the photos out that had myself in them. They were myself with Pavel, me holding a signed Juve jersey, and a couple of other photos of me posing with the guys.

Fine. Here's the thread Iwas talking about, by the way. http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3901

OK, and what does this have to do with what we are talking about??

First of all, I was born in the US, but I am of Italian descent, therefore "Italian-American" Secondly, you are in no position to tell me whether or not I'm Italian.

OK, we're not going to start bagging on my country, now are we?

You only lose your roots if you allow it to happen. And that can occur in any country, not just the US.

Never said that I know more than you. Just don't assume that because I don't support one player that I'm not a true fan. And I've stood within one meter of Alex as well. Also, with Nedved, Davids, Buffon, Trez. And I have the photos to prove it. (Its somewhere in this multimedia forum)...

Let me tell you something, you little shit. I've been a supporter since 1976, and the last thing I need is someone who becomes a fan from riding the coattails of one player questiong my loyalty to Juve.

Look, no one here is doubting the greatness that Del Piero used to be. But that's the key phrase in the sentence. "used to be".

OK, for the last time. Who on this thread stated that they hate Del Piero?? No one that I can see. Do I hate Camoranesi? Oh, absolutely. He is a joke, and that joke isn't even funny. He is the laziest pile of crap that has ever had the honour of wearing the Juve shirt, and I would...

So, in other words, we can't criticize any of the players. is that what I'm getting from this??

Yes, because I want to be a Lemming just like you and support every player that plays for Juve, no matter how much of a waste of time, space, and money they might be. Hey, they wear the Black and White, so they must automatically be great.

I'm the number one anti-Camo antagonist on this forum.

I've been here for a little over a year, and Z has never said, not once, that he hated Del Piero. He just realizes, as do most people here who think objectively, that Del Piero is nowhere near the player he used to be. Can he still be an integral part of the team? Certainly. Should he...

When Del Piero retires, and then half of these newbies will drop Juventus like a bad habit.

Then the question can be asked if we are depending too much on a player who, while still very talented, is not the player that he used to be? Now, players like Miccoli and DiVaio, in my opinion, on their best day, were not as valuable as a DelPiero. But let's hypothesize and assume that 2...

Until he (Del Piero) starts realizing that he is best served being an assist man, and creating plays for others thereby allowing players like Zlatan to take a more central role, and allow Trez to roam in the box, then its going to continue to be a frustrating stretch for him. ego can be a...