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Agroppi is the torinista answer to Zeman: 2 sore losers. Don't listen to them.:disagree: (Btw, Agroppi is also the uncle of one of our ex primavera players: Luci. Once he went to see on of Luci's matches in Viareggio. When he was "caught" he looked quite ashamed :D )

How can it affect more our finances? We won't play UCL anyway. It'll affect the finances of the other clubs. This is not true, we won the appeal last december, when the Agnelli were already dead. We won because we were innocent. No, wait. This is true for the sportive courts. Tar is not a...

Definitely :D

We don't have anything to lose. It can't get worse than -17 B, two lost scudetti and obviously no European Cups. For *us*, at least. Who cares if Figc gets banned from the cups for a while. It would only mean that Inter&co will have to give up the CL money. Not a big problem to me. The real...

De Lise said they're goona try to find a date before the end of August for the appeals, but he couldn't assure anything. Tar has the power to suspend the championships, but it doesn't mean that they'll 100% do it.

It's official: we are going to Tar Juventus to Appeal Demotion, Says Ruling Will Impact Sales Pagina 1/2 By Alessandra Migliaccio Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Juventus Football Club SpA, said it the club's demotion to Division B for match fixing will appeal to a regional court, after failing...

Let's wait the ordinary courts to act before we say they are all corrupted. In the doping appeal we got justice, didn't we? And bribing a sportive FIGC judge is not the same as bribing a regular one. Anyway, it was Rossi himself that said that all FIGC clubs would get excluded from the...

It's just a possibility, but if we won't it'll take us at least 2-3 years to qualify. The sweet thing is that it wouldn't be just us excluded, but the whole Figc (all the clubs + the NTs <--- from any European tournament: Uefa, CL, EC and Intertoto).

Yeah, that was a big mistake and now the pressure on the courts is getting higher. I'm just worried about this: Tar hearings will begin on Aug 26th (Moggi's and Giraudo's ones, for example). After the 26th, the next date is on Sept 6th. The championships (would) begin on the 9th. If Tar...

This is the point: we'll be able to compromise punishments only in a sportive trial. With Tar the sportive verdict is either legitimate or illegitimate. So, if we win, all the verdicts we've seen will be cancelled and everything will return as it was before the first verdict. At that point...

I said I think, 'cause I believe I would have read if they had started to renegotiating or were about to. So, what I know is that no one has started to renegotiate anything yet and september is coming.. To tell the truth they are still fighting themselves for the Serie B rights, cause some are...

Tar (and the other ordinary courts) can't reduce the points penalization. They just judge if the sportive verdict is legitimate or not, basing themselves on whether laws and procedures ahve been followed, if the defence has been given the possibility to defend themselves, if the documents used...

I think I heard they won't be renegotiated.

Could give us -30 Serie A or penalized B. I said that cause that's what the rumors said. With a -30 A, or even a -20 A, we would get surely relegated, that's why it was possible.

I could tell you that Rossi and his staff are interisti from head to toe, but I'll quote some statements of 2 of the judges of the first (I think) sportive trial, that were in an article I translated some days ago:

I was quite sure they wouldn't have given us Serie A back.. We can appeal and, well, I think it's very possibile that they'll invalidate the verdicts, but I can't be 100% sure, cause I'm not part of either of them. :wink: I guess we'll have to wait, see and hope Juve will be more decise in...

I don't want to illude you, anyway here's a Nesti's (He is a journalist who also posts his news on j1897) rumor: If Juve will win the Tar appeal, they'll (we) demand Figc 500 millions euro for the damages. It would be wonderful, wouldn't it? :D (But, even if we'll win the appeal, I...

The documents of the verdicts were stolen from the FIGC's offices. The dynamics tell that it was someone who works there who did it. The question is: why? There is who thinks that what was made known differed from what was written there.

Not Moratti, but Rossi had his own (left sided) party some years ago. (And where were the wrongdoings? Even the sportive court admitted they haven't found anything)

The administrator did what they did because they're are either incompetent or needed to make money for IFIL by selling our players. What I know it's that the president of the sportive court himself said there were no illicit behaviours, that what other clubs did was worse and that the trials...