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I think Jeeks was being sarcastic.;) I would personally like to have Jimenez on our team - He would be an improvement over what we have right now. But I can't blame him for not wanting to playin Serie B. He first read about him on the magazine like 3 or 4 years ago so he must have been in...

Did I just see Moggi complementing Roma?:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: .:D Anyway it seems to be FIFA and UEFA is putting these threats not to prevent Juve taking the case to the court (after all what does Juve loose if Italia can't compete in Euro and other teams get thrown out) but rather...

Could they do that if we appeal to European Court of Justice? I cannot believe UEFA is going to override pan European institution.

I think it depends a lot on how the media develop in next couple of months. If some foreign media sense something fishy going on, and see Juve winning the appeal at the TAR two responses I can imagine is: (A) Italian's can't get anything right. And Juve bribed the judges. (B) The initial...

I like your optimism keep it up!:agree: . However, I am not fixated with the place in Serie A. I have changed my mind that Serie A with penalty is still better than little severe penalty and B - largely due to my personal affection for the players - but it is not the end of world if I don't...

I agree with you mark. It is in the right of Juve to make sure we get our case heard in the court. The threat of sanctions from FIGC, FIFA, and UEFA are simply unethical. Anyway how do you envision our re-instatement to Serie A? As far as I see it, FIGC is not going to change their initial...

Does anyone know how much? Anyway, it is quite interesting because by providing financial compensation FIGC is implicitly acknowledging that the senteces given to Juve is unfair. And their willingness to compromise show, to certain extent, that we do have genuine chance of winning, as Isha...

Milan had 44 point penalty last year, which was good enough to finish 7th in the table. However, one has to take into consideration that Milan and Juve went on a fantastic pace, despite certain let down towards end of season, and I do not think any team will replicate such performances this...

Vinman, Just looking at the sentences that we received relative to others, like you I certainly feel we are being vicitimised here. I understand you anger and thoughts, and I respect them. However, I have been impressed by the attitudes of the board and players who have been very quick...

Mark I will sign up to that petition, Is there a player not in your database?:D . Anyway, I disagree on the appeal. Well I don't think Serie A heavy penalty deduction will do us any good. Just quickly looking at last season, there was 60 point gap between us and Messina who were the...

Just as I thought. It was matter of time that shareholders brought this case to civil court and IMO rightly so. As I have mentioned numerous times, if the issue was simply confined to match-fixing(?) scandal it would be difficult to argue against the relegation penalty received by Juve since it...

Mark, as you are the ultimate infomation guru in this board, how many husband does Pairetto have? Moggi owns his ass - Check Berlusconi owns his ass - Check Lotitto - Check Delle Valle Brothers - Check Inter? - You know that when Inter is your daddy.......No comment needed.:D ...

mark, I don't buy a word what UEFA said. Talk is cheap. And beside their attitude is clearly in complete contrast to what they said about Juve. They claimed as if they had the necessary rights to expel Juve from the European competition. There is an obvious contradiction between their...

I am so certain that there is a backdoor agreement between Italian FA, & UEFA - so called the gentlemen's agreement. Firstly, why did UEFA delayed the registration to its competition prior to the verdict? They pretty much knew that Milan would not get relegated. And do you reckon it is just...

I am wondering then what are the chances of us acutally winning it? I guess, overall, the whole conversation would be meaningless because we probably won't be re-instated and moreover Secco is no fool in trying to get us back to Serie A whatever the cost. Anyway, this is beside the point...

Well I hear that the ban could last for multiple of years. Anyway, my guess is that UEFA and Italian FA has a backdoor agreement to punish Juve (I am almost certain of this on the Italian FA's initiative and willing reponse by UEFA), and as the outcome of verdict is beyond the latter's hand the...

Hopefully we can get more points reduced. Somewhere around -10 points would be quite comfortable for 1st or second place now that Viola and Lazio are in Serie A. Also, it would ease the mental pressures on players as the season begins. If we are re-admitted to Serie A, it may not be...

Regardless of whether the sentence is fair or not Moggi, and Giraudo were the one who initiated whole scandal from the first place, and I just cannot believe that Juve's new management team is supporting these two crooks. If anythingelse shareholders should take them to the court for the...

Tue F The critical issue for me is not so much the severity of guilt because it depends essentially on one's stands but rather how these severity of guilt corresponds to the sentence given. As far as I am concerned, I have not yet been informed on what basis these correspondence were made...

:toast: :toast: If Gigli pulls Canna move off and give one up to Capello's arse, I will love him whatever he does from then on.:toast: