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  1. GordoDeCentral

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    mmh thats not what 99% of muslims believe, Satan(shaytan) is clearly mentioned in the Quran. He was too arrogant to bow to adam since he(satan) was made of fire and Adam of clay. His actions warranted him eternal damnation. As far as demons, the subject is not as clear cut; some believe they're...
  2. GordoDeCentral

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    to those interested in more rational theology i have these two links sorry for not summarizing , i tried to but i felt i wasn't doing them justice, especially the second one, have fun reading: http://www.homestead.com/philofreligion/files/Jewislam.html http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ip/pg1.htm
  3. GordoDeCentral

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    Again it is very disturbing to view "Christianity" as an independent dogma from it's hebraic roots. Jesus was jewish. He never called his disciples christians. One of the reasons why Jesus was more of a civil disobedient is because he was more of a reformer than an innovator in his society. So...
  4. GordoDeCentral

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    and to those interested I will present some of the arguments islamic/jewish theologians came up with which go beyond your aristotelian-thomist proof system.
  5. GordoDeCentral

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    mmh someone forgot to attend old testament classes during their catechism. and actually the nomenclature of the technical term "Jihad" was done by christians in other languages, which duely mean tht they had compared the concept to something they are already familiar with. So really the fact is...
  6. GordoDeCentral

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    good one seven, oops i mean whatever your new name is. But seriously get a life.
  7. GordoDeCentral

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    So burke is a thinker, great to hear. This universe of yours do we agree on its temporality(that it has a begining and an end) ?