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They can win their own league for a start which they havn't won for 3 years or something.

I'm going to be lazy and trust whatever the official UEFA (or other continent) rankings state. Has anyone seen it? If so please enlighten us all. Why is Barcelona consistently shown in these top tens? What have they done in recent years?

i wasn't responding specifically to you leila but to the general thread.

lets wait and see what Milan do this season... Ancelotti has never won anything as coach before, and how does he accomodate the egos and talents of Rivaldo, Pirlo, Rui Costa, Sheva, Tommasson, Pippo. A lot to think about from a coach whose teams aren't really that attacking.

I think there is only really a top 3 that journalists talk about - Serie A, EPL and La Liga. Maybe the other 2 are underrated? I would say however, that the Dutch league is easily on a par with the French league, if not higher. The French league is more balanced and unpredictable but their teams...

...it's a gradual progression... quarter-finals a couple of seasons ago, semi-final last season, the final this year;)

keep that hat at hand at the end of the season... I want pictures or video maybe of you eating that hat:LOL:

call me biased but i believe manu will win it this year... the final is at Old Trafford and Sir Alex Ferguson really wants to win it more than the league since he's on the verge of retirement. They've started the season slowly but that is very deceptive due mainly to all their injuries...

Empoli - Juventus 0-2 Atalanta - Bologna 1-2 Chievo - Brescia 2-1 Man Utd - Tottenham 3-1 Arsenal - Bolton 3-0 Malaga - Valencia 0-2 Deportivo - Valladolid 2-1 Lyon - Monaco 2-1 PSG - Bastia 2-1 Werder Bremen - B. Leverkusen 2-1

Great start from a rejuvinated Del Piero!

why was the real madrid game abandoned? they were losing one nil at the time...

Juventus - Atalanta 2 - 1 Modena - Milan 1 - 2 Bologna - Roma 1 - 2 Inter - Torino 2 - 0 Betis Sevilla - R. Madrid 0 - 2 Athletic Bilbao - Barcelona 1 - 3 Valladolid - Villarreal 2 - 1 Leeds - Man Utd 2 - 2 Chelsea - Newcastle 2 - 2 Marseille - Bordeaux 2 - 1

This group looked pretty easy to me but saw highlights of the Finland v Wales game, with Wales winning 0 - 2, and now think this is definately a tricky group. In recent times Wales have beaten Germany, drawn with Argentina and maybe drawn with Brazil. They have got some real attacking talent...

great goal from DP

so long as Juve are not too defensive at St James' Park a result is possible. It's easy to become defensive when you play Newcastle because of their frightening pace but should remember their weakness at the back.

My choice from the above would be Patrick Viera or Gerrard because they dominate the teams they play in aswell as the opposition. In the EPL Roy Keane, Patrick Viera and Steven Gerrard are seen as the main central midfield dynamos. But, there's little chance these will ever be sold. The one...

Davids may be unhappy at the moment but he hasn't said to everyone he wants to go.

R Baggio gets my vote

This looks too weird to me... Juve are without doubt above Inter, Barca and Liverpool should have more points. The main point here is that this is a 'survey' taken from 10,000 people, and seems to be a survey about peoples 'perceptions' not about how many football kits are sold, how many fans...

I'm not questioning the guys credentials, only that the fans really did not like him at all even when he won them something. Ask yourself why the club got rid of him. The fact is he had a lousy rapport with the fans, the club and the media. They rehired him basically because they got desperate.