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  1. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    I would actually go against majority and bet VdV or a playmaker is coming. Asking price for VdV is nothing compared with some of the deals that has been made. When Hargreaves cost far more that, you can't say no to VdV. And I think we desparately needs to spend some big bucks to cover Del Piero...
  2. Jun-hide

    Bellamy to Juve????

    Of course the rumor is load of shit. Its so blatantly leaked by the Liverpool side, so that they can get best deal out of their English counterparts. I presume Bellamy got some suitors in EPL, and it may be the case that Liverpool are finding hard for mid-division team to spend some serious...
  3. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    That is point I want to get to. When you want to carry out such research you got have clear dimension of what you want to investigate, in statistical term, population. More specifically, what is the definition of fan, what is the criteria of admitting one, and how do we measure them. If you...
  4. Jun-hide

    Dear Mr Ranieri

    I don't know Vonam. I was ment to say FROM midfield. But I had a tough day, so give me a break! ;) When Zambrotta first came here, he didnt start off immediately. Zambrotta had to wait a bit, and if my memory serves me correct, his debut start was against Parma, which was just before, or...
  5. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    On what basis you are saying ManUtd fanbase is 2nd biggest in the world? I don't how things are in UAE, but I have yet to seen a single person wearing Manchester United Shirt in the downtown of Tokyo. Because a team is popular in one part doesnt necessarily mean it is popular in the other...
  6. Jun-hide

    Dear Mr Ranieri

    I think a lot revisionist history is going on here, so I will clear things out. Zambrotta was never sure thing, a can't miss prospect. He had share of his detractors with rumors constantly flying about sharing that he would be traded for Giannichedda and Ambrosini. People questioned his...
  7. Jun-hide

    Dear Mr Ranieri

    I think Dom watched his fair share of Serie B matches, Ditto Sateeh and Seven. And Arif, you are a good man!:pint: I respect you man, and I think you are a wonderful poster but this sounds awfully generalising to me. And I reckon this contradicts the whole theme of your posts given you...
  8. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    You don't spend money you got cash. That is biggest misconception a lot of people on this board don't understand. You pay transfer fees based on the value the player could bring to this team. Juve is a big team - probably bigger than Manchester United. There are many aspects o the team that...
  9. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    I included Arsenal (1) because I suspect you suppor them and (2) it was blatantly implicit in your sentence that Juve is a second class player in the Calcio Mercato. What is point of saying Bayern spend so much, has Juve ever done stuff to match that, when (1) this board is going to be full of...
  10. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    What people havent mentioned yet is that team rarely pay full transfer fee. They simply don't give other teams lump sum amount of 12m sterling pound as other request you to. For player like VDV, it makes a lot sense to put into contract performance related fees, such as amount of certain amount...
  11. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    I hope you werent so serious. Nedved, Thuram, Buffon, Di Vaio, Need I say more? Considering the market at the time, Baggio and Vialli would have cost substantially more than Ribery. Juve isnt Arsenal, a team that has to take on 17, 18 year old to have a chance of competiting. This is one of...
  12. Jun-hide

    Mauro Camoranesi

    Thanks for keeping short for me.:D But yes, given the kind of decision Secco has been coming up with Trezeguet & Camo, I think we better get some scouts to "cover" their mistakes. Who in the right frame of mind would give a contract that is lower than the existing one, when the player in...
  13. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    I think VDV scored 2 goals against Korea last week.:D
  14. Jun-hide

    Van der Vaart

    I never rated VDV as a playmaker. You know he doesnt get "it" as some more creative players do like Zizou, Nasri, Veron, Totti, Messi, Ronaldinho. But that is no knock on his talent. I think the days where you needed prototype playmaker are long gone. And I see a lot of teams having success with...
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    Mauro Camoranesi

    Camo is at a stage of career, and contractual wise where we will be hard pressed to get equal value for money. From sporting perspective, yes, he can replaced. I think Quaresma and Van der Vaart, or Robinho for that matter, are more talented player than Camo. But the question is where do we...
  16. Jun-hide

    Mauro Camoranesi

    Well I give simple solution; I say fire all those "consultants" that seems to be around this new management board. The amount Secco takes home for bring likes of Iaquinta & Ranieri would more than off-set the increase asked by Camo. That makes fans happy, players, and do world of goods to our...
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    Mauro Camoranesi

    Espectro that is factually wrong. Because I can recall vividly Camo actually asked Italian F.A to give him 2 weeks decision period to see if Argentina was intent on calling him up. Likewise, Deco, Camo ended up with Italia not because of his choice, but the country of origin simply deemd to be...
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    Van der Vaart

    I am big fan of VDV. He is deceptively versatille. I don't think he has the physique to play out and out striker in Italia, but he would be outstanding rotational player to cover Nedved and Alex since both are at stages of career when you should not be surprised with an injury or two. Only...
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    Mauro Camoranesi

    Camo has been underpaid for large amount of his career. He probably didnt have much choice since joining Juve from once proud but relegated Hellas Verona is no brainer. I think out of respect Juve should try to keep Camoranesi and give him the chance to end his career here. Yes, I am a bit...
  20. Jun-hide

    The Gaby Milito to Juve saga

    Defenders got longer self-life than attackers, and when unproven kids like Nani requires 17m sterling pounds! then I say Milito is worth every single cent. This year's market is distorted because EPL teams got some serious cash to burn (which they will regret like Serie A teams a few years...