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I mostly agree. Didnt mean to say they are winning, of course our institutional and state level propoganda is much stronger and effective but only in the west, and the reasons for it goes way beyond it just being propeganda. More to shared interests and soft power imo anyway, was Just saying...

I don't disagree, I think its pathetic and weak. My point still stands though. Palestinian are playing the propaganda game just as well, theirs much better at targeting current generation. It's evident in this thread and it's a lost battle. You should see the pro-palastinian propaganda in...

Every random YouTuber now becomes an official spokesperson and every twitter handle is an elected representative. God this generation is so simple

I will let them have him

I know her and her partner who died is a friend. I won't comment on how she experienced things, she's a cool person and apparently brave, but I can tell you for sure they were tripping mad on acid when all this went down. I was in Be'eri that Saturday, later then that event but fighting wasn't...

And the "protocols of the elders of zion", fucking Russians. They were worse to us than the Germans in totality imo.

Part of the reason I personally think the arabs weponized the Palestinian plight and used them as a sword on Israel's neck. If they allowed it we wouldn't be here today

Back then? Yeah I would have. We have a joke/saying here "why not Uganda?" Today is too late, we fought too hard, lost to much. We will go down with the ship if it comes to that, I can't just go back and become a European/African like my great-granparnts. I have no religious ties to the place...

From what I remember the Jordanians plan was always to annex or do a federation type deal. To be fair out of all arab countries they were the most fair to the plastinians, even now, even after black September And the Egypt part made me laugh lol

I agree with your assertion here. On the last part, and I know it will sound racist even though its not my intention, but when arabs don't value their own or other arabs lives it hard for westerners to do it.

Israel gained more land since, adjusted im not that far off. I know the map and I know my country. The deal is not as bad as you make it sound. Jaffa and Gaza were both major port, ashdod is no the 2nd largest in Israel, no one stopped them from developing further. 62% of the land sound unfair...

The Negev is 55% the size of current Israel. Fact 1697488949 I'm not at all dude, Israeli responsibility is undiable but it didn't happen in a vacuum. I'm saying the Arab world in its entrity also has a responsibility. Without their backing in 48 the plastinians maybe would have taken the...

Gaining allies and support is part of fighting a war and building a strong state. People act like it's using cheat codes in a video game. Not mention they had 5 armies and entire Arab world support

They were kept statless and are being kept as refugees abecause they have been weponized by the Arab world against Israel. They are the only people to ever been hereditary refugees in world history.

60-70% of the land proposed for the Jewish state was actuall fricking desert. The Arab state has almost none at all. You have no knowledge just spweing Palestinian talking points

Cutting Gaza from electricity and water isn't nice, but it is our electricity and water we are cutting off. Perssonally I think it does more harm then good (cutting water, not electricity) but our politicians are populist like everywhere else and it's a hard sell atm. The PA pays for most of...

Much calmer, our side is stabilised and cleared. Haven't been any engagements on our side since wendsday. Still getting shelled sporadically but nothing too bothersome. My unit have 2 days of rest now in one of the settlements that got hit hard and then we will go back down to the fence. I...

You didn't even bother to read your own links lol

Sure, Israeli intelligence sent 5 of their top spy's to blow up the towers and they caught by clapping and cheering in public. You've been alluding to some pretty idiotic conspiracies here but this is a bit much even for you no? Do you hear yourself?

We already unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005. It was done by Sharon who was way way more hawkish than bibi. Hamas was installed by the Gazans themselves, by democratic election in 2006. Also the prime minister was Olmert not bibi.