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Thanks :D.

A decent CL run (tempting fate) could see us break the €350m barrier next term

We do need wingers in fairness, but that isn't the argument, like you say BA, the performance is all on the players. Fuck all to do with Marotta.

People blaming Marotta for the Greece debacle :lol:

:lol: Wednesday's game is only fleetingly mentioned, more about us being an enigma in Europe throughout our history.

Wrote this in the aftermath of Wednesday's game. Opinions? http://www.juvefc.com/juventus-the-enigma-of-europe/

Wrote this yesterday, opinions folks? http://www.juvefc.com/juventus-the-enigma-of-europe/

Conte fucked this team over good, his continual ''we can't compete, the gap is too big blah blah blah'' has seriously destroyed any confidence in this side when it comes to European matches. The league we play in is also a huge problem, 18 out of the 20 teams in the league lie down for us...

People creaming themselves over their GK, what a pile of rubbish. You get what you pay for, if you don't buy clinical strikers you end up with players who miss a plethora of chances. Would Trezeguet or Del Piero have missed them chances? Absolutely fucking not. We have nobody to blame but...

Another classic night for the Juve image. Our slogan should be ''Underachieving in Europe since 1999''

Of course it does, but when it's a completely relentless Bayern side doing it people will tend to forget about it. We still get reminded about Fulham tanking us 4-1.

I can see your point with Atletico, I'd take the draw in Greece in that situation.

Rubbish, We should be beating Olympiakos home and away, if we have any aspirations of going far in this competition we have to win, no questions asked. A loss tonight would give our image a further battering. If you can't see that, your fucking clueless.

I'm talking about the brand of Juventus. A lot of people don't watch the league sure, but if they glance at the table every now and then, and see we finish the season with 102 points, then go to Olympiakos and draw or lose. It harms our brand.

Rubbish, Bayern tanked us 1-4 in 2009 and not a lot was made of it, because it's Bayern. When we fail to win against the likes of the Copenhagens/Norsjellands/Olympiakos etc it further gives credence to the perception that we 'destroy everyone in Italy by buying refs but in Europe they can't...

Getting destroyed by a world class, well-oiled machine at home or being the reigning champions of Italy and not being able to beat Olympiakos in Greece? Further damaging the club's brand? Which would you take?

I'll say this much If we don't beat Olympiakos tonight, it will be as bad as Roma's result last night.

To be fair to Roma the linesman who flagged Gervinho offside when he was in his own half was ridiculous :lol:

No team could have lived with that. Bayern relentless.

Didn't see the game, but by all reports we weren't good?