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No nation was ever first to the land they currently are at. Not one.

So Germany, USA, Serbia, Russia, China and Turkey (among others) should just fuck off from where they are? EDIT: Even Slovakia.

:sergio: I didn't ask you the question, nor am I the one who's really into the "counting years" stuff. But some posters argue, that the Israelis have no right to be there, because they were gone for too long. So I asked them, how long is long enough, when exactly did the Israelis lose that right.

I have two questions: 1) How much time does a nation have to spend in an area to consider it their land? 2) How much time do they have to be away from that area to lose rights on that land?

The last two coaches insisted on playing a formation that obviously didn't fit the team, and the one before prefered Poulsen over Xabi Alonso.

...yet.

Abdelkareem Alkhattabi - lost to France and Spain Che Guevara - Cuba isn't really seen faborably Bolivar, San Martin, Carrera, Artigas - that was back in the 19th century, Europe had their fair share of revolutions, we now don't like them that much Saad Zaghloul - supporting my...

Furthermore, countries like Germany and Poland will have a historical problem going against Israel.

I am trying to help you get Israel's allies on your side. ReBeL, I know that to you this will sound pathetic, but there is a reason why people were listening to Martin Luther King and not Malcolm X, why there were listening to Gandhi and not the other millitant guys that were in India. I...

You know what's funny, Seven? We're trying to help them, we're giving them tips in how to win our fellow Europeans over, and yet, for some reason, they think we are against them.

Turk, why was the one year old there in the first place? He's not Palestinian, so he's not returning to his homeland, and as a one year old, he clearly has no capacity of distributing humaritanian aid or helping the needy.

It did work for Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. And for the suffragettes, and, well, any other activist in Europe or the US, that has actually achieved something.

Yes, but killing innocents with an excuse given by their arch enemies, well, that's their wet dream.

Yeah, but my choice of words protects me from any potential lawsuits. :D

Milito 'disgusted' with Inter Wednesday 2 June, 2010 Diego Milito is apparently 'disgusted' that some people at Inter are offended that he is flattered by interest from Real Madrid. The 30-year-old Argentine striker who scored both goals in the Champions League Final didn't exactly...

If a Mossad agent is reading this thread, he must be laughing out loud in his office. Israel fucks up big time, and their opponents want to fuck it up even more.

I misunderstood your position, then. I still don't agree with it, though.

:sergio: I'm not saying you are constantly attacking them. But every time some Palestinian or Lebanese attacks Israel, no matter how small that attack is, you're back to square one in the eyes of most of the Europeans. Now, I'm not saying it's not propaganda, it most certainly is, but that's...

On one hand, you support the right for Palestinians to have their own country (which I support, too), on the other hand, you don't approve of the same right for Kurds.

Guys, Seven is right here. If you attack Israel under current circumstances, you'll lose. You'll lose a lot of public support. The thing is, most of the people over here in Europe know nothing about the point of view of Palestinians and Lebanese. Most of the folks here think all of you are...