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That's not your point though. If Nuri, Mesut, Hamit were playing in Turkey, even though they are good enough to play for Madrid, Real Madrid weren't gonna buy them. So your point would be, "If they're so good, why didnt any big team buy them?" If Arda was Argentinian, he would be playing for...

Quaresma? Is that the guy who played for 3 big teams such as Inter, Chelsea and Barcelona and they all sold them after 1st season? Plus, read Turkish newspapers more carefully. Arda's value is way more than Quaresma's. And I can name at least 5 players who can play in Juventus from Turkish league.

I know, Norway didn't make up the rules. I'm just using Norway to make an example, it could be Romania, Scotland or Ireland in the future. In this case, it's Norway. I kept asking you what counts for FIFA and you didn't give me an answer. I seriously don't know what counts. How does it work...

Ever since I joined to this forum, I've been reading your posts and most of them make sense to me. But come on man. So you beat Portugal and is that why you should be in pot 1? Are you seriously trying to defend Norway now? If past successes dont count for FIFA, what does? You haven't even...

Of course, I'm gonna bring national team argument. You said Turkish league doesn't produce any talent, what am I supposed to bring it up? I watched Arda, Mesut, Nuri and rest of Turkish players for years and years. I think Arda is the best and most talented Turkish player as of right now...

Can't give me any answer? Hahaha :) I never said Turkey should in pot 1. We don't deserve to be in pot 1 at all. Turkey is in 2nd pot and I think it's fair. I was just curious how Norway made it there. You obviously don't know it too. But it's okay. Try to qualify for this World Cup since you...

Nuri Sahin isn't our best player. He even barely starts. Just because he went to Real Madrid, it doesn't make him best one in our national team and trust me, I've watched him more than you can ever watch him. If Nuri Sahin, Mesut Ozil or even Hamit Altintop play for Real Madrid, Arda can play...

So you can't tell me whats your biggest success in past 10 years? I don't know and I havent done any research about it. If your success doesnt count for FIFA, what does? Friendlies? I dont know how FIFA rankings work and it's stupid anyway. How? I'll tell you. Mexico plays with all stupid small...

Nuri Sahin never played in Turkish League. So that goes out of the window. If Turkish league doesn't produce any talents, how the hell we made to semi final's on Euro's and World Cup's? Let me ask you this question differently. Do you know any countries who made it to semi final's in World Cup...

Our Federation is so stupid, they finally caught Fenerbahce about fixing 9 games and they're still debating if they should relegate them or not when Fenerbahce won the title by goal difference. But if you need to be objective, do you really think Norway should be in 1st pot? What's your biggest...

Bitter? No. Shocked? Yes. I thought I missed watching major tournament where Norway made at least to semi final's or something. We did pretty good in a group where world champion Spain finished as 1st too. I would have love to have Norway from 1st pot in our group :) Too bad, we got...

If Arda isn't capable playing for Juve, who is from Turkish league? Who's the most valued player in Turkish league? And lastly, who's the star of Turkish national team? You're probably Fenerbahce fan, thats why I see why you hate him.

My ex-girlfriend was Romanian, I came to Bucharest for a month. I haven't seen witnessed anything bad. Romanian girls actually love us :) Props up! :) One of the most beautiful girls in Europe with Swedish ones ;)

Let it be. They fixed 9 games and they won the title by goal average. Rules are very easy to understand. Even if you fix one game or attempt do it, you relegate. They did 9. See ya Fener in 2nd division.

Sigames forum, on player section. Theres Wonderkids topic, I'd copy and paste in here but list is too long. Post would ruin the discussions in here. There are only few players on FM 11 who are as young as him and as good as him for AML position.

I like Seria A too bur majority of Turkish people dont like Seria A the way we used to at the end of 90's. Thats exactly why no turkish channels bought tv rights for Seria A last year up until 3rd week of Seria A, then TV8 bought it. Because theres no demand for Seria A. As for this year, nobody...

How? We eliminated you in Qualyfing groups for Euro 2008 and then we went to semi finals in that tournament where you couldnt even get to go. Then we had World Cup which you didnt get to go again but yet you guys are in pot 1? Thats strange. Friendlies shouldnt count. Because you can arrange...

With one word; boring. Most popular league is EPL, then La Liga.

Don't waste your time reading that book because Ahmet Davutoglu is with AKP Party. Anything he will write or say is going to be against Military. Ever since Turkish have been established, Military was most trusted unit in Turkey by people. Thanks to AKP. They're trying to destroy that...

How the hell did Norway make it to 1st pot? They didn't go to last world cup. Before that, we were in same group with Norway for Euro 2008 and we beat them, we went to Euro 2008 and finished the tournament as 3rd but yet they're in pot 1 and we are in pot 2? I just don't understand what...