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Here is not the point...I mean I can have my beleives, its my right, now u can not agree with them, its your right, but its not up to u to decide if something is outrageous or not...Everyone can have his own vision of the life but only God can decide what is right or what is wrong, we all have...

Well as far as I renember, I always knew Vinman like a great person who have always interesting opinions.. Wich is not ur case...In fact Iv read some of ur post in others threads and Ive notice that often u have a childy behavior...And I dont tell this only cauz everytime u can u bash Baggio...

So true... And the real "spirits skills", Baggio show them 4 years later scoring pk against chile and France... U know like one of my friend one day said me something so true: "U know this final in 94, yes, this game was already loose when Baggio was about to shoot, so it was not...

By the way Denco I just have read in the WC forum the post where u have answer to football italia about the rating of the NT in the WC... Just to say that I will have EXACTLY gave the same rating to the players that u did, except for Del Piero, I will even get him a 6.5 (5.5 against ecuador...

I share ur opinion at 100% Vinman...After all I cant blame someone who have an argumentation who stand, even if one more time we dont share the same opinion Denco, ur arguments are valids, I think its a question of point of view, and when ur point of view is well explain, nobody can argue...

What kind of truth are u talking about Denco, please dont regress... there is no truth in ur words, it is simply amazing saying even 1 second that its harder to play in a big team, its pure madness...when u talk about pressure, what do think about the relgation pressure, its the same, all is...

Well another time I cant agree on your "small club theory"... I mean Del Piero has exactly the same importance in juve that Baggio has in Brescia...Del Piero has nothing to do more then what Baggio do in Brescia...And sorry guy but I can speak in all knowledge cauz I did watch all Brescia...

Denco Ive understand ur point of view and I respect it...Ive understand that u have a good knowledge of football and as it is not an exact science, everyone can have his opinion...I agree that for someone who hasnt look very carefuly at the career of Baggio it could be hard to understand when...

Well keep ur opinion guys I dont want to make trouble...But Evelyn and Denco u seem to be in the evil side... In fact u seem to like Del Piero and ur "false love" for Baggio is a piety, u can keep it...And Evelyn I never read so many stupidities in my life, u can keep ur little DP who fail...

Thats why only experts can see how Strong Baggio is? Yes Baggio did scores 27 goals but for how many presence? 54...So that isnt so bad... The real problem is that Baggio was sacked for a lot of reason in Italy...Iam only telling this: how many goals will have score Baggio if he had the same...

oh and by the way when I talk about Lippi like a devil.. its only cauz I dont know a lot of men who has catch out a player after this one has qualified him in CL and then in the next season after one match he leaves saying "Mi vergogno di questa squadra" I mean thats the worst shame that I...

Yeah yeah, Again Im not talking about opinions but facts...U know I only would like to know how many games u guys have watch of all this players...Ur opinion are a lot made by stereotypes...It seems to u that a player is good and u saw it did sometimes 2 or 3 good things and bam he is a...

Sorry but thats the truth, this players have their qualities but this is true... Zidane for example has a very good teknik but very useless when u put a solid men on him he is only a shadow...he can do great passes but isnt that good in shoot and fk...No comparaison with the master...

You didnt change man... U see, Im only talking about facts, and during the WC I have realize that the fact was that we should have use DP more cauz he has the correct spirit... But DP is DP, and Baggio is Baggio something stands...Like Lippi he will be for ever the evil... And Baggio...

Ronaldihno isnt that good...Brazil was very lucky in this WC dont forget it, England excepted they only meet weak opponents... There is only one player who can do it all in this world...In fact some can do useless dribbles (zz) without knowing realy how to take a shoot or a fk...others r very...