Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,733
That goal you talkin' about?? another Frenchman did it last sunday with Juve... only looks better
Lol no way.

Like B82 said,, full of bias that comment but ill answer anyways because i want to.

His CL final volley was insane. Plain and simple. And to score a decider like that in an CL final is the top of the line for a footballer, apart from scoring crunch goals in a WC FINAL...which he also did.

He was at his peak with us.... but everyone just wanna remember him like the best of the galacticos who carried them to CL glory. But most importantly... his heart is in madrid. And that pains me dearly, specially since i despise them considerably.
 

ZoSo

TSUUUUUUU
Jul 11, 2011
41,646
Pele: Zidane was better than Messi

The Brazil legend believes the Real Madrid assistant coach was superior individually than the Argentine during his playing days

Pele says Zinedine Zidane was a better player than Lionel Messi when he was at his peak but revealed he would vote for the Barcelona star ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo to win the Ballon d'Or.

Zidane lifted the World Cup and European Championship with France during his playing days as well as the Champions League and then the Ballon d'Or with Real Madrid.

Messi has been widely-heralded as arguably the greatest player of all-time having won the Ballon d'Or a record four times, but Brazil legend Pele does not share that same point of view.

He told reporters: "Individually, I think Zidane was better than Messi. Zidane was amazing and the team-mates he played with were not the same standard as Messi’s; he plays with Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona."

The Argentina international is again expected to be among the frontrunners to lift the game's most prestigious individual prize, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Franck Ribery his closest rivals for the crown.

And Pele admitted he would vote for Messi ahead of the aforementioned duo, while fellow Selecao legend Rivelino rubbished comparisons between the forward and Albiceleste great Diego Maradona.

"I would vote for Messi because of his technique," Pele added.

Rivelino stated: "In my opinion, Neymar is technically better than Messi. There’s no way you can compare Messi to Maradona. He fitted perfectly into a team where everything worked. This year another player will win."
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,733
Ref: 'Who saw Zidane hit Materazzi'
By Football Italia staff



The 2006 World Cup Final referee reveals what happened when he sent off Zinedine Zidane for headbutting Marco Materazzi.
Argentina’s Horacio Elizondo spoke to magazine The Blizzard about his experience that night in Berlin and insisted at the time he didn’t realise how iconic that red card would be.



“Obviously, after the match I realised that it had been an enormous decision, thanks to the big media reaction to it. But right now, as I’m showing him the card, no. It’s just a player on a team. It’s the same.”



There has always been controversy over that decision, as many believe the Fourth Official only alerted Elizondo after seeing the replays of the headbutt to the chest on monitors.



“It was all done over the headset. When Materazzi fell to the floor, the ball was up the other end of the pitch and of course I was keeping up with play over there. I whistle for a handball and give a free kick.



“Then play switches and goes back into the half of the pitch Materazzi was lying in,
but on the other wing, and I remember it was at that point that I saw him lying on the floor. I wait to see whether he gets up — he doesn’t get up… doesn’t get up… doesn’t get up — and I stop the match.

“From where I was to where Materazzi was, was a walk of about 25, 30 metres. So immediately I ask my assistant, Darío García, “Darío, did you see anything? What happened? Why’s he on the floor?” He tells me, “I don’t know, I see him there on the floor but I didn’t see what happened.”



“Then I ask Rodolfo [Otero, the other assistant referee], who was on the other touchline, in the other half of the pitch — without much hope, because he was a long way away — and he tells me, “No, me neither.”
“And that’s where I start to think… I had a lot of doubts, clearly something had happened, but if no one saw what it was… and then Luis Medina Cantalejo’s voice appears in my headset, and he says, “Horacio, Horacio, I saw it,” he says to me. “A really violent headbutt by Zidane on Materazzi, right in the chest.”



“So obviously, when I get to the spot, I already know Zidane is on his way. I got to the spot, to where Materazzi was, and the Spaniard had already told me what I needed to know to make the decision that Zidane was going to leave the pitch.

“What I then asked [Cantalejo] was, “Why did he headbutt him?” — whether he’d seen whether Materazzi had done anything beforehand — and he replied, “No, honestly I don’t know. I just saw the headbutt.”

“And when I got there, I realised that the players didn’t know what was going on either, apart from Gianluigi Buffon who was protesting to the assistant, pressuring him, and Gennaro Gattuso, but the others saw almost nothing, just like me. And the noise in the stadium… the crowd just went silent, as if to say, “What’s going on? Why is that player lying on the floor?” And me in the middle of it, thinking, “Right then… how do I make this decision clear? Zidane’s going, he’s standing there calmly.”



“It didn’t seem very correct, to me, to just BANG! take a red card out like that, as if from nowhere, with the crowd and players all having seen that I’d been in the other half and hadn’t seen anything. So, since the headsets were only new, you can see if you watch it on video that I go over to Darío García… I went over to Darío, but I knew Darío didn’t know anything! So, why? Well, because that is understandable.



“Everyone understands if you go over to the assistant that it’s because the assistant is going to tell you something to help you make a decision. So I get to Darío, and I just say to him, “Focused!” — I say it to him and I say it to myself, to remind us both, “there are still ten minutes to go, stay focused.” — I turn around and go to Zidane and take out the red card.



“When I realised I needed to get the card out I thought, “Right then, let’s see, how can I make this easily understood?” And I say to myself, “If the assistant calls you over, everyone knows that’s because he’s going to tell you something. It was a little bit of a disguise, but it contained some truth as to how the decision was taken.”
 

Lemon318

Il Marrone Juventino
May 1, 2012
567
So much Zizou love here. I'll be honest, seeing his love for Madrid really irks me. Even in the charity match, he played more minutes for them. Will always love Nedved more.
 

89man

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
1,634
Pele: Zidane was better than Messi

The Brazil legend believes the Real Madrid assistant coach was superior individually than the Argentine during his playing days

Pele says Zinedine Zidane was a better player than Lionel Messi when he was at his peak but revealed he would vote for the Barcelona star ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo to win the Ballon d'Or.

Zidane lifted the World Cup and European Championship with France during his playing days as well as the Champions League and then the Ballon d'Or with Real Madrid.

Messi has been widely-heralded as arguably the greatest player of all-time having won the Ballon d'Or a record four times, but Brazil legend Pele does not share that same point of view.

He told reporters: "Individually, I think Zidane was better than Messi. Zidane was amazing and the team-mates he played with were not the same standard as Messi’s; he plays with Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona."

The Argentina international is again expected to be among the frontrunners to lift the game's most prestigious individual prize, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Franck Ribery his closest rivals for the crown.

And Pele admitted he would vote for Messi ahead of the aforementioned duo, while fellow Selecao legend Rivelino rubbished comparisons between the forward and Albiceleste great Diego Maradona.

"I would vote for Messi because of his technique," Pele added.

Rivelino stated: "In my opinion, Neymar is technically better than Messi. There’s no way you can compare Messi to Maradona. He fitted perfectly into a team where everything worked. This year another player will win."

Pele hates Messi becasue he is from Argentina.
What an idiot.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
39,401
You are an idiot and a fag if you think Messi is actually better. A lot of kids these days (particulary in Asia and the ME) who know jack shit about football beating their meat to that genetically modified garden gnome and others of his ilk sickens me.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,336
Messi is better than Zidane and is the best club player of all times.

If he leads Argentina to a world cup triumph, he can be called the greatest player in history. I dislike Messi because he has no personality and plays for a disgusting club but let's not be biased, the guy is a phenomenon.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,689
Messi is better than Zidane and is the best club player of all times.

If he leads Argentina to a world cup triumph, he can be called the greatest player in history. I dislike Messi because he has no personality and plays for a disgusting club but let's not be biased, the guy is a phenomenon.
He's phenosteroid, and by no means a better player than Zizou.
 

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