World War III edges closer..... (2 Viewers)
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oh...so you've visited there lately, how was the trip ??
how badly were they being tortured ? did you have to look away ??
The Geneva Convention covers enemy soldiers, not terrorists
and if a little water-boarding gets some info out of these guys as to their next attack on innocent civilains, then so be it....I'll turn the hose "on"
how badly were they being tortured ? did you have to look away ??
The Geneva Convention covers enemy soldiers, not terrorists
and if a little water-boarding gets some info out of these guys as to their next attack on innocent civilains, then so be it....I'll turn the hose "on"
bad. And it got very little information out of terrorists.
Rebel, i don't think what the Americans are doing is much better. But what i'm trying to say is that disregarding an international governing body (that when countries do accord is successful) sets a precedent for the rest of the world! A very bad one!
America do use illegal methods of interrogation(water boarding etc.) but there is no doubt its the lesser of two evils. I would rather some "freedom fighters" feel uncomfortable than what is going on in Georgia right now or what went on post WWII.
And also compare Georgia to Iraq... in Georgia where was the oppressive dicator? Did Georgia gas thousands of innocent people? If the US's reason for invading was false, then at least I'm glad they had achieved something. Russia on the other hand can only do harm to what was a well working country, and the only thing they will achieve is oppression, rather than liberation.
Rebel, i don't think what the Americans are doing is much better. But what i'm trying to say is that disregarding an international governing body (that when countries do accord is successful) sets a precedent for the rest of the world! A very bad one!
America do use illegal methods of interrogation(water boarding etc.) but there is no doubt its the lesser of two evils. I would rather some "freedom fighters" feel uncomfortable than what is going on in Georgia right now or what went on post WWII.
And also compare Georgia to Iraq... in Georgia where was the oppressive dicator? Did Georgia gas thousands of innocent people? If the US's reason for invading was false, then at least I'm glad they had achieved something. Russia on the other hand can only do harm to what was a well working country, and the only thing they will achieve is oppression, rather than liberation.
and pray tell, good sir, is not torture to be detained without being properly charged and trialled. fuck vinman, how can you proclaim to be part of this sane world when you are such a big hypocrite? how do you know the people you are detaining are not innocent civilians?
how can you rise in the name of democracy and freedom when you go and do just the opposite. how can your administration try and push the ideas on a sovereign state when it finds justification for doing such on lies and deceit. lies to the same people that they were elected to serve, sending their children into a not only unnecessary but awfully planned war that has cost the lives of tens of thousands and trillions of dollars.
and further more for that same commander-in-chief to go out and veto two bills that would guarantee healthcare to the poorest of the children and the best universities to those who had served in the military.
how can you rise in the name of democracy and freedom when you go and do just the opposite. how can your administration try and push the ideas on a sovereign state when it finds justification for doing such on lies and deceit. lies to the same people that they were elected to serve, sending their children into a not only unnecessary but awfully planned war that has cost the lives of tens of thousands and trillions of dollars.
and further more for that same commander-in-chief to go out and veto two bills that would guarantee healthcare to the poorest of the children and the best universities to those who had served in the military.
you could say the same about 9/11. Although Russia was provoked i don't think its okay to go one worse. Super powers have to set the precedent for everyone else, that they can have military power but shouldn't abuse it. They probably could have protected their civilians without employing malisha to terrorise Georgian civilians. Fairly hypocritical i must say.
