Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2012-13) (26 Viewers)
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Hey, I know everything about this kid. I've watched every single games he's played in professionals (started this year) and a lot of them in U18 NTs. He's been a regular at these teams. And he plays for Fluminense, my team.
I tell u: this kid is a VERY GOOD investment. Inter and mainly Napoli are all over him. Chelsea might make an offer too (they already have 40% of him).
He has a lot of potential. Perfect as a RW or RWB. Is very very quick, strong, defends decently, good skills, shoots and passes well. He is just starting his professional career, so u can notice his decision making has to improve - he's still anxious sometimes. But he's just 18. And he's already in the starting team of Fluminense, who is currently one of the best teams in the country.
I'm pretty sure he is the best full back prospect at the country now. His upside is huge, and he will be at the very least a decent/good player (he's already decent, actually).
Any team which wants him will have to pay only for 60% of his economic rights (I doubt Chelsea will sell their part). And Fluminense doesn't have money and traditionally sells his players badly or too soon.
On the other hand, the president knows if he waits 2/3 years this guy can be in the NT and be worth more thant 12M euros. So I guess to take him out of Fluminense it would cost around 4/5M (for 60% of him).
Very good investment IMO, but the kid would still be a project in an European club. Look at Marcelo, who also started at Fluminense - this kid took some time to adapt and now he's the best of the world in his position. But he definitely had a bigger upside than Wallace.
So, if there's money to spend, do it. But I don't think it's the case for Juve right now.
I tell u: this kid is a VERY GOOD investment. Inter and mainly Napoli are all over him. Chelsea might make an offer too (they already have 40% of him).
He has a lot of potential. Perfect as a RW or RWB. Is very very quick, strong, defends decently, good skills, shoots and passes well. He is just starting his professional career, so u can notice his decision making has to improve - he's still anxious sometimes. But he's just 18. And he's already in the starting team of Fluminense, who is currently one of the best teams in the country.
I'm pretty sure he is the best full back prospect at the country now. His upside is huge, and he will be at the very least a decent/good player (he's already decent, actually).
Any team which wants him will have to pay only for 60% of his economic rights (I doubt Chelsea will sell their part). And Fluminense doesn't have money and traditionally sells his players badly or too soon.
On the other hand, the president knows if he waits 2/3 years this guy can be in the NT and be worth more thant 12M euros. So I guess to take him out of Fluminense it would cost around 4/5M (for 60% of him).
Very good investment IMO, but the kid would still be a project in an European club. Look at Marcelo, who also started at Fluminense - this kid took some time to adapt and now he's the best of the world in his position. But he definitely had a bigger upside than Wallace.
So, if there's money to spend, do it. But I don't think it's the case for Juve right now.
Regarding the market, my dream mercato would be to get rid of Ziegler (3M), Padoin (loan), Pazienza (1M), Iaquinta (free), Melo (8M), Matri (13M), Quagliarella (7M), Pepe (7M), totaling 39M + Elia (6M) and Krasic (7M) = 52M.
With that money plus money the board would make available we would get Armero (2M + 7M), Bochetti (2M), Jovetic (30M) and Dzeko (25M). Adding the buys of Caceres (7M), Leali (3.5M), Isla + Asamoah (16M), Gio (11M), Giac (4M), Boakye (4M), Gabbiadini (3M), Masi (1.5M) we would have spent "only" 58M and had a dream mercato.
But the truth is we are probably keeping Padoin (waste of time IMO) and one between Matri/Quagliarella, and probably getting Peluso + Dzeko/Llorente. Which is not bad at all
With that money plus money the board would make available we would get Armero (2M + 7M), Bochetti (2M), Jovetic (30M) and Dzeko (25M). Adding the buys of Caceres (7M), Leali (3.5M), Isla + Asamoah (16M), Gio (11M), Giac (4M), Boakye (4M), Gabbiadini (3M), Masi (1.5M) we would have spent "only" 58M and had a dream mercato.
But the truth is we are probably keeping Padoin (waste of time IMO) and one between Matri/Quagliarella, and probably getting Peluso + Dzeko/Llorente. Which is not bad at all
I suspected you'd know, thanks 
I'm not sure what UEFA regulations there are with players owning 40% and 60% of a player, but I'm not sure it works like in South America. I think that was a sticking point in Tevez's transfer to Man Utd when he left 'West Ham' (Joorabchian). Chelsea surely have their foot in the door with this kid.
I'm not sure what UEFA regulations there are with players owning 40% and 60% of a player, but I'm not sure it works like in South America. I think that was a sticking point in Tevez's transfer to Man Utd when he left 'West Ham' (Joorabchian). Chelsea surely have their foot in the door with this kid.
Serie A definitely, CL no I doubt it. Maybe up until the quarters, then next year we ship Dzeko away then get Higuain then we win. 
B81's prophecy must be fulfilled in order for us to win the CL. Jojo-Higuain\Cavani
B81's prophecy must be fulfilled in order for us to win the CL. Jojo-Higuain\Cavani
I highly doubt it's going to happen anyway. We are having a hard time getting Jovetic, let alone targeting Cavani or Higuain. Who needs the CL anyway? It's not like we win it every year, and the last time we won it was only 16 years ago when some of you were still toddlers, and I was still in high school 
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