in their primes i would have preferd scholes at juve. not saying one is better than the other, as they are different. xavi fits barca, and their style of football.
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Cripes! What is with all these myths you guys are trying to create? In the first place, Scholes doesn't score a lot. Second, I'm not stating this as a fact but the majority of his goals were from strikes outside the box, right? How does that indicate his ball movement was better than Xavi's? 1 + 2 = 5?
The only thing Scholes is really better at is passing the ball to the opposition team. That's not a slur against Ginger though, because he's not a bad passer of that round thing we call a soccer ball.
By the way, Scholes better at tackling? Fuck me, now I've heard it all.
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By the way, Scholes better at tackling? Fuck me, now I've heard it all.
epedinho:
Imho Xavi has the defending nailed down. His tackling isn't something to be proud of, but he does it when needed. What's more his movement off the ball is helping him again to be in the right place at the right time more often than not.
It depends on how far up you play, Xavi has played more far up then usual this past season and scored his best tally in his career, 14 (not much of a long distance shooter, so needs to be closer to score), while not focusing on his A game as much and in overall having somewhat mediocre season (besides scoring) due to that. While Scholes was essentially the perfect box to box mid most of his career, freedom to wreck havoc in the hole whenever he could, plus obviously his immense long distance shot making him prolly average a dozen goals a season.
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Scholes scored alot outside the box with long shots but also quite alot more in or just around the box with very opportune momvement, allways knew how to position himself or where to be (loose balls or knowing where passes will come etc). No one scores 150 goals of long shots...
If I show this to non footie fan (or one who doesnt know scholes), they would obviously think he is a striker
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Scholes scored alot outside the box with long shots but also quite alot more in or just around the box with very opportune momvement, allways knew how to position himself or where to be (loose balls or knowing where passes will come etc). No one scores 150 goals of long shots...
If I show this to non footie fan (or one who doesnt know scholes), they would obviously think he is a striker
I don't know. Both are great, but Xavi gives the more recent (and lets be honest more memorable) moments of magic in football and I am favoring him i think...
But I absolutely agree that the way your team plays would have a much more substantial input in choosing 'the better' player than individual skills. Both are rarely gifted footballers. For Juve's current system I'd take Xavi in a blink.
Imagine
=Xavi = Vidal=
====Pirlo====
But I absolutely agree that the way your team plays would have a much more substantial input in choosing 'the better' player than individual skills. Both are rarely gifted footballers. For Juve's current system I'd take Xavi in a blink.
Imagine
=Xavi = Vidal=
====Pirlo====
This is a tough one; tough, in the sense that Scholes would definitely finish bottom of the pile, as he is a level below Riquelme/Xavi/Pirlo.
However, when it comes to the other 3, there is so little to choose between them. All 3 are absolutely wonderful players. I'd go with Pirlo as my top pick (only cuz I'm biased). I wouldn't be able to choose between Xavi and Riquelme though.
Throw Zidane into the mix though, and there could only be one winner
However, when it comes to the other 3, there is so little to choose between them. All 3 are absolutely wonderful players. I'd go with Pirlo as my top pick (only cuz I'm biased). I wouldn't be able to choose between Xavi and Riquelme though.
Throw Zidane into the mix though, and there could only be one winner
This is a tough one; tough, in the sense that Scholes would definitely finish bottom of the pile, as he is a level below Riquelme/Xavi/Pirlo.
However, when it comes to the other 3, there is so little to choose between them. All 3 are absolutely wonderful players. I'd go with Pirlo as my top pick (only cuz I'm biased). I wouldn't be able to choose between Xavi and Riquelme though.
Throw Zidane into the mix though, and there could only be one winner
However, when it comes to the other 3, there is so little to choose between them. All 3 are absolutely wonderful players. I'd go with Pirlo as my top pick (only cuz I'm biased). I wouldn't be able to choose between Xavi and Riquelme though.
Throw Zidane into the mix though, and there could only be one winner
All right, I'll admit that I was being harsh in saying he never scored a lot. 150 career total goals is a sizable number for a midfielder. That post by the cnut monkey from Turkey pissed me off and I was on total anti-Scholes mode for a moment, lol. Scholes scored a lot for a midfielder but look at his tallies for the last 10 years. They've dropped considerably from the number of goals he scored in his first 10 seasons.
I rate Scholes more for his consistency over the years and his longevity, than for his talent. There have been plenty of midfielders and AMs more talented than him. Just not many who've been able to play at a high level for as long as he has.
I rate Scholes more for his consistency over the years and his longevity, than for his talent. There have been plenty of midfielders and AMs more talented than him. Just not many who've been able to play at a high level for as long as he has.
That's quite interesting to think of it, actually.
Scholes moved from an attacking midfielder to a goalscoring central midfielder to a deep lying playmaker.
Xavi moved from a deep lying playmaker to a central midfield playmaker.
Pirlo moved from a trequartista to a deep lying playmaker.
All can shift backwards and forwards a position or so, but generally that's how I'd see it.
Scholes moved from an attacking midfielder to a goalscoring central midfielder to a deep lying playmaker.
Xavi moved from a deep lying playmaker to a central midfield playmaker.
Pirlo moved from a trequartista to a deep lying playmaker.
All can shift backwards and forwards a position or so, but generally that's how I'd see it.
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