Wow. Shit team, and goodbye Serie A title. We won't even make a dent in the CL. Knocked out in the round of 16. If we sell both Sandro and Dybala, and the board don't seriously reinforce, they should all be caned.
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This is how we replaced established players in the last 3 years
Pirlo --> Marchisio moving into deeper role
Pogba --> Pjanic
Vidal --> Khedira
Llorente --> Mandzukic
Tevez --> Dybala
Morata --> Higuain
Bonucci --> Caldara
Alves --> MDS
the only one you can argue with is alves being replaced by MDS (although so far he is not too bad)
Our managment is not stupid, they know how to replace players.
If dybala leaves then we buy a player that is of the same level or better. Given Neymar went for 220 mil you can just imagine how much marotta will ask for dybala.
If anyone leaves then we will replace him with an adaquate, established player.
Pirlo --> Marchisio moving into deeper role
Pogba --> Pjanic
Vidal --> Khedira
Llorente --> Mandzukic
Tevez --> Dybala
Morata --> Higuain
Bonucci --> Caldara
Alves --> MDS
the only one you can argue with is alves being replaced by MDS (although so far he is not too bad)
Our managment is not stupid, they know how to replace players.
If dybala leaves then we buy a player that is of the same level or better. Given Neymar went for 220 mil you can just imagine how much marotta will ask for dybala.
If anyone leaves then we will replace him with an adaquate, established player.
I trust the management to improve the team accordingly. Dybala doesn't need to be replaced as such imo.
He is the only reason it makes sense to play the 4231 as he plays centrally. If he is gone then we might as well just move to a 433 full time and sign accordingly. Spend that money in Sergej, another mid for the bench (could be Can), a right back and then bring back Caldara and Spina.
He is the only reason it makes sense to play the 4231 as he plays centrally. If he is gone then we might as well just move to a 433 full time and sign accordingly. Spend that money in Sergej, another mid for the bench (could be Can), a right back and then bring back Caldara and Spina.
No, we didn't need to sell Pogba to buy Higuaín. Even Marotta said the same thing, and he usually doesn't lie about these things. Said when we were linked Higuaín that it's very possible we'll sign him (cept I thought we'd pay 70m after getting Higuaín to push for a move, not 90m for a 28 yo).
And for the last time, Pogba left because he wanted to leave. The club didn't want to sell him. Quit saying "we sold" this or that top player like you're playing FM, as if these decisions are based only on what the club wants.
Your assumptions are wrong based on our financial statements.
And "net spend" isn't an actual thing. Leaving out salary and amortization makes no sense. Marotta gets a budget for salary and transfers. But our "net spend" was around 65m plus we budgeted 40m for Douglas Costa. Around 150m total estimation including bump in total salary for this season was reasonable looking at our statements and the amount we saved from previous season (about broke even the previous season).
It's not unreasonable at all to assume we can spend 100m in the mercato next summer.
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That doesn't mean Dybala or Alex Sandro won't leave or that we'll sign SMS. Every top club is following him.
And for the last time, Pogba left because he wanted to leave. The club didn't want to sell him. Quit saying "we sold" this or that top player like you're playing FM, as if these decisions are based only on what the club wants.
Your assumptions are wrong based on our financial statements.
And "net spend" isn't an actual thing. Leaving out salary and amortization makes no sense. Marotta gets a budget for salary and transfers. But our "net spend" was around 65m plus we budgeted 40m for Douglas Costa. Around 150m total estimation including bump in total salary for this season was reasonable looking at our statements and the amount we saved from previous season (about broke even the previous season).
It's not unreasonable at all to assume we can spend 100m in the mercato next summer.
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That doesn't mean Dybala or Alex Sandro won't leave or that we'll sign SMS. Every top club is following him.
PSG offer €170m for Milinkovic?
By Football Italia staff
Paris Saint-Germain are reportedly preparing a mammoth €170m bid for Lazio midfielder Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.
According to Corriere dello Sport, the deal is being conducted through super-agent Jorge Mendes.
The newspapers adds the Aquile have been “blown away” by the offer as only Neymar and Kylian Mbappe would command higher transfer fees in world football.
PSG are looking for midfield reinforcements as Thiago Motta is now 35 years of age, while Milinkovic-Savic has long been courted by some of Europe’s top clubs.
The 22-year-old has scored seven goals and assisted three in 21 appearances for Lazio this season.
By Football Italia staff
Paris Saint-Germain are reportedly preparing a mammoth €170m bid for Lazio midfielder Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.
According to Corriere dello Sport, the deal is being conducted through super-agent Jorge Mendes.
The newspapers adds the Aquile have been “blown away” by the offer as only Neymar and Kylian Mbappe would command higher transfer fees in world football.
PSG are looking for midfield reinforcements as Thiago Motta is now 35 years of age, while Milinkovic-Savic has long been courted by some of Europe’s top clubs.
The 22-year-old has scored seven goals and assisted three in 21 appearances for Lazio this season.
It has fake news all over the place as 100M will probably do...
In any case I think SMS to Juve is now officially over...
The thing about him is - SMS is certainly a WC player but the truth is he is way over hyped...
I mean SMS is a great player but he is not as good as they make him to be
He is definitely one of the best in his position but he isnt a player that comes once in 50 years or something...
Pogba had that crazy combination of skill leadership and he proved at Juve a top club!!! that he can be crucial!
Verratti has done it at PSG
Vidal who was sold for a ridiculous 30M showed it!
SMS currently showing it at Lazio but he has yet to show anything for a top club - He did show he is amazing but if I need to compare him to some players who are now worth over 100M or were sold in the past for that sum such as Pogba and Verratti then I must say he isnt there yet and Im not sure he will get there..
SMS to me is the new Hamsik
In any case I think SMS to Juve is now officially over...
The thing about him is - SMS is certainly a WC player but the truth is he is way over hyped...
I mean SMS is a great player but he is not as good as they make him to be
He is definitely one of the best in his position but he isnt a player that comes once in 50 years or something...
Pogba had that crazy combination of skill leadership and he proved at Juve a top club!!! that he can be crucial!
Verratti has done it at PSG
Vidal who was sold for a ridiculous 30M showed it!
SMS currently showing it at Lazio but he has yet to show anything for a top club - He did show he is amazing but if I need to compare him to some players who are now worth over 100M or were sold in the past for that sum such as Pogba and Verratti then I must say he isnt there yet and Im not sure he will get there..
SMS to me is the new Hamsik
Just few people like you would actually believe in that ridiculous narrative that we dint need to sell Pogba to buy Higuain. And your justification to that argument is by saying 'Marotta usually doesn't lie'. It's hardly convincing. He lies plenty of times like every SD does who are not expected to be transparent in front of the media. We would've never done such a big transaction like that without guaranteeing ourselves of a big sale. How is that so hard to understand
Pogba wanted to leave but also because we couldn't afford the kind of wages he wanted. Marotta has gone on record saying we can't afford top level wages specifically in the case of Pogba so is he lying here or is he saying the truth ?
You seem to be in complete denial mode as if the reasons for players leaving aren't monetarily related at all.
It's not some sort of mere coincidence that we are spending more money on new players while equally benefitting from sales at the other end. It's how we've started to operate recently as player sales are also bumping up the revenue. We made €550M last year and the huge bump from the previous year was down to Pogba and Morata transfers. Ideally, the plan would to be around that mark every year.
We'll see what happens next summer. I am not saying it's unreasonable to see us spend €100M next summer just that in my point of view it's not 'unreasonable' either to see a big sale at the other end to balance the spending.
Pogba wanted to leave but also because we couldn't afford the kind of wages he wanted. Marotta has gone on record saying we can't afford top level wages specifically in the case of Pogba so is he lying here or is he saying the truth ?
You seem to be in complete denial mode as if the reasons for players leaving aren't monetarily related at all.
It's not some sort of mere coincidence that we are spending more money on new players while equally benefitting from sales at the other end. It's how we've started to operate recently as player sales are also bumping up the revenue. We made €550M last year and the huge bump from the previous year was down to Pogba and Morata transfers. Ideally, the plan would to be around that mark every year.
We'll see what happens next summer. I am not saying it's unreasonable to see us spend €100M next summer just that in my point of view it's not 'unreasonable' either to see a big sale at the other end to balance the spending.
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