Winter mercato thread 2016-17 (50 Viewers)

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Sjaban

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It's highly unlike that Dolberg will leave this summer after only one season. He was presented to Ajax by John Steen Olsen who has a very good relationship with the club. They will be adamant on keeping him for at least another season.
 
May 26, 2016
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Dont rate Belotti that much while Bernardeschi is ok but nothing more..



although Donnarumma is not as good as the hype suggest but if you consider his performance with his age then he is definitely amazing

I wish more ppl could see things like that...
Just scored. Try seeing things like that :tup:
 

rakib567

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Belotti could just be Immobile v2. If he can replicate his performances for more than one season or with the national team then he is worth investing by a top club.

Bernadeschi looks the real deal. His creativity is incredible, and he showed his talent last year too. I don't think we will chase him but worth keeping an eye on.

Berardi has constantly scored at the top flight in 3 consecutive seasons. He should make the jump to a big club and develop into a great player. Hopefully he gets fit and gets a consistent run of games to persuade juve to buy him this summer.
 

DanielSz

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Verratti will be juves first real statement to the rest of Europe that they're back and they're not fucking around. Higuain was just the beginning. Now obviously this doesn't mean they're going to be dropping 100m on a single player every summer, but they will be a threat every transfer window the same way Bayern is. Fans don't want to believe it, and it's only natural, but juve has gradually been building for this moment for awhile now.

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Another note about Verratti: his sponsorship with puma has ended. Juventus doesn't have any stars signed to Adidas, the closest being Pjanic. You think Adidas wouldn't pitch/market Verratti as the face of Juve? Big time marketing opportunity there, not only for them, but for Juve as well.

Oh and that 10 shirt....
 
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Verratti will be juves first real statement to the rest of Europe that they're back and they're not $#@!ing around. Higuain was just the beginning. Now obviously this doesn't mean they're going to be dropping 100m on a single player every summer, but they will be a threat every transfer window the same way Bayern is. Fans don't want to believe it, and it's only natural, but juve has gradually been building for this moment for awhile now.

- - - Updated - - -

Another note about Verratti: his sponsorship with puma has ended. Juventus doesn't have any stars signed to Adidas, the closest being Pjanic. You think Adidas wouldn't pitch/market Verratti as the face of Juve? Big time marketing opportunity there, not only for them, but for Juve as well.

Oh and that 10 shirt....
You seductive beast you, giving me a boner with these predictions. I hope your right
 

spurdo

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Verratti will be juves first real statement to the rest of Europe that they're back and they're not fucking around. Higuain was just the beginning. Now obviously this doesn't mean they're going to be dropping 100m on a single player every summer, but they will be a threat every transfer window the same way Bayern is. Fans don't want to believe it, and it's only natural, but juve has gradually been building for this moment for awhile now.

- - - Updated - - -

Another note about Verratti: his sponsorship with puma has ended. Juventus doesn't have any stars signed to Adidas, the closest being Pjanic. You think Adidas wouldn't pitch/market Verratti as the face of Juve? Big time marketing opportunity there, not only for them, but for Juve as well.

Oh and that 10 shirt....
 
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Belotti could just be Immobile v2. If he can replicate his performances for more than one season or with the national team then he is worth investing by a top club.

Bernadeschi looks the real deal. His creativity is incredible, and he showed his talent last year too. I don't think we will chase him but worth keeping an eye on.

Berardi has constantly scored at the top flight in 3 consecutive seasons. He should make the jump to a big club and develop into a great player. Hopefully he gets fit and gets a consistent run of games to persuade juve to buy him this summer.
Definitely not - they are very different players. Due to his workrate Belotti has potential to be a much better player in a number of different tactical systems. Immobile offers very little except goals. Belotti is much stronger on the ball, and is fouled a lot. He also creates a lot more for his teammates.

Immobile is a one trick pony who feasts off beating the line.
Here are some comparisons...
Offside
Immobile is 1.4 times per game
Belotti is 1.0 times per game
CONCLUSION...Immobile loves to try and beat the line
Dribbles
Immobile has 1.1 successful dribbles per game and a 37% take-on rate
Belotti has 1.2 successful dribbles per game and a 57% take-on rate
CONCLUSION...Belotti is a superior dribbler, and despite similar successful dribbles, Belotti's take-on rate is significantly superior
Fouls
Belotti is fouled 3.4 times per game
Immobile is fouled 1.2 times per game
CONCLUSION...Belotti is tough on the ball, and a better dribbler
Defensive Actions
Belotti completes 0.4 interceptions per game, attempts 1.9 tackles, completes 1.1 tackles (57% success), 1 clearances,
Immobile completes 0.2 interceptions per game, attempts 1 tackle and completes 0.5 (50% success), 0.6 clearances,
Shooting
60% of Belotti's 3.5 shots per game are from inside the box, they are more or less even between his head, left foot and right foot, 50% of shots are on target
69% of his 4.2 shots per game are from inside the box, about 3/4 of his shots are with his right foot, 30% of shots are on target
CONCLUSION: Belotti is much more dangerous in the sense that he can be a threat in several respects including being able to shoot with both feet, and as we will see with respect to playmaking
Aerials:
Belotti attempts 5.1 aerials per game and is successful 39% of the time
Immobile attempts 1.9 aerials and wins 32%
CONCLUSION: Belotti attempts many more and wins a higher percentage of aerials. He plays a much more effective hold up game than Immobile
Passing
Belotti completes 2 key passes per game
Immobile completes 0.9 key passes per game
Conclusion: Belotti is superior at creating chances for his teammates too


The conclusion from all these numbers are that Belotti is much more complete striker. Immobile thrives off beating the line, but isn't great at holding up play, isn't a very efficient dribbler, doesn't help much defensively and doesn't create much. Belotti holds up play, can beat the line, can score with both feet, is an aerial threat, helps much more on defense, and is very comfortable on the ball, completing several dribbles per game and getting fouled a lot. He is dispossessed a lot more, but that is likely do to the fact that he is dribbling in more dangerous areas.

Even if Belotti doesn't repeat next year in terms of production, his versatility and workrate will make sure he is used. Immobile if not scoring, sits on the bench.
 
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