Weston “Immovable” McKennie (28 Viewers)
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This thread is wild 
I thought the opposite tbh, which is why we got him for the price that we did. For nationalities adding to price, I would say Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Spain, and England would fall into that category. Maybe Germany as well?
I thought the opposite tbh, which is why we got him for the price that we did. For nationalities adding to price, I would say Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Spain, and England would fall into that category. Maybe Germany as well?
Now Mckennie is an American playing for one of the more popular clubs in the world alongside arguably the most popular player in football and has almost cemented his place in the starting XI. Ofcourse his market value is going to increase.
But if we were to believe that his market value is worth €60-€70M based on his footballing ability alone, then we're literally taking the piss here.
Looking at the valuations scrolling at the top of the site, they seem to overvalue quite a few players
https://football-observatory.com/
https://football-observatory.com/
According to that same thing called CIES, there is some player called Bukayo Saka who's worth between 120-150 M Euro.
I admit that I don't watch football outside serie A and CL, and I haven't seen this player. But I haven't even heard about him. The fuck?
P.S: Wait, is that CIES thing a joke? Rashford is worth between 150-200M, Alexander-Arnold between 150-200M
I admit that I don't watch football outside serie A and CL, and I haven't seen this player. But I haven't even heard about him. The fuck?
P.S: Wait, is that CIES thing a joke? Rashford is worth between 150-200M, Alexander-Arnold between 150-200M
Classic misuse of stats.
For example, they are recording a win when he started against Siena, while the result was 0:0 until he was one and we scored and won 3:0 immediately after he was replaced. They are recording a draw when he didn't start against Verona, while we were leading before he came on. They are recording a draw against Lazio, while we were leading before he came on. They are recording a draw against Roma, while we were losing until he was on and managed to get a draw once he went off.
A more, but still not a completely fair way would be to count the results only while he was on the pitch, and compare them to the results when he wasn't on the pitch.
That would give: 11 wins - 6 draws - 4 defeats with McKennie on the pitch vs 11 wins - 4 draws - 4 defeats without him on the pitch. Same shit.
For example, they are recording a win when he started against Siena, while the result was 0:0 until he was one and we scored and won 3:0 immediately after he was replaced. They are recording a draw when he didn't start against Verona, while we were leading before he came on. They are recording a draw against Lazio, while we were leading before he came on. They are recording a draw against Roma, while we were losing until he was on and managed to get a draw once he went off.
A more, but still not a completely fair way would be to count the results only while he was on the pitch, and compare them to the results when he wasn't on the pitch.
That would give: 11 wins - 6 draws - 4 defeats with McKennie on the pitch vs 11 wins - 4 draws - 4 defeats without him on the pitch. Same shit.
This thread is wild
I thought the opposite tbh, which is why we got him for the price that we did. For nationalities adding to price, I would say Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Spain, and England would fall into that category. Maybe Germany as well?
I thought the opposite tbh, which is why we got him for the price that we did. For nationalities adding to price, I would say Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France, Spain, and England would fall into that category. Maybe Germany as well?
Hes a good player. Him, Arthur and Ben should be starters among current bunch. Several years ago, he wouldnt have a shot at starting place though. He isnt top class, doubt he can reach that level since his technique often lets him down, but hes very energetic mid, likes to play between the lines, has good instincts, an ok decision making.. We will see how he developes.
I didn't cherry-pick anything. Feel free to add the stats I didn't use which are relevant for a midfielder.
I used: average number of passes per 90 minutes, passing %, distance covered, assists, goals, tackles, interceptions, crosses, blocks, dribblings. How is that cherry-picking? Which other stats are relevant for a midfielder? Won aerials; how many times per game is the midfielder dispossessed; key passes per game; bad control of the ball per match?
I didn't think they are so relevant, but ok, here they are:
Won aerials:
Rabiot and McKennie 1.1
Bentancur 1
Ramsey 0.5
Arthur 0.2
Dispossessed per match:
Ramsey, Rabiot and Arthur 0.4
Bentancur 0.5
McKennie 0.6
Key passes per match:
Ramsey 1.6
McKennie 1.1
Arthur 0.9
Bentancur 0.8
Rabiot 0.4
Bad control of the ball per match:
Arthur 0.8
Bentancur 1
Rabiot 1.2
McKennie 1.3
Ramsey 1.5
It's the market that sets the price.
I don't think we're overpaying for McKennie. 4.5m for the loan, 18.5m to buy him and additional 7m upon achievement of further sportive performance objectives. That's a minimum of 23m euro and a maximum of 30m euro. Sounds fair. I don't expect him to become a world-beater and the prices might fall due to Covid-19, so we might not make a nice profit if we sell him eventually, but I don't think we'll lose money if we decide to let him go in the future. I see the ~30m euro as a fair price.
I used: average number of passes per 90 minutes, passing %, distance covered, assists, goals, tackles, interceptions, crosses, blocks, dribblings. How is that cherry-picking? Which other stats are relevant for a midfielder? Won aerials; how many times per game is the midfielder dispossessed; key passes per game; bad control of the ball per match?
I didn't think they are so relevant, but ok, here they are:
Won aerials:
Rabiot and McKennie 1.1
Bentancur 1
Ramsey 0.5
Arthur 0.2
Dispossessed per match:
Ramsey, Rabiot and Arthur 0.4
Bentancur 0.5
McKennie 0.6
Key passes per match:
Ramsey 1.6
McKennie 1.1
Arthur 0.9
Bentancur 0.8
Rabiot 0.4
Bad control of the ball per match:
Arthur 0.8
Bentancur 1
Rabiot 1.2
McKennie 1.3
Ramsey 1.5
It's the market that sets the price.
I don't think we're overpaying for McKennie. 4.5m for the loan, 18.5m to buy him and additional 7m upon achievement of further sportive performance objectives. That's a minimum of 23m euro and a maximum of 30m euro. Sounds fair. I don't expect him to become a world-beater and the prices might fall due to Covid-19, so we might not make a nice profit if we sell him eventually, but I don't think we'll lose money if we decide to let him go in the future. I see the ~30m euro as a fair price.
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