US Diplomats killed in Benghazi over amateur's film (3 Viewers)

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
22,514
#61
@Cheesio

Were Americans allowed to attack Muslims when 9/11 happend?

When a muslim kid destroys a Christian Graveyard are Christians then allwoed to attack muslims?

When muslims call me an infidel, am I then allowed to attack them?

In all mentioned cases feelings where hurt, just like you were hurt by a cartoon or movie.
Can't you fucking understand, they are not allowed, just like muslims aren't allowed to attack when they feel offended, But the action tha provoke and make a person feel offended is unecessary especially in the context of religion
 

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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,717
#62
Yeah, because you don't feel offended becuase it doesn't affect you personnally, your spirituality, like i said before, The prophet for all muslims, whether they are practicant or not, is a red line, and in the majority of case it's a person that's very dear to us more than our families.
So why keep on pushin that button, why keep on provoking and giving these terrorists reasons to attack you.
So it's ok to provoke people to bad things and hide under the umbrella of freedom of speech, that's the problem of the west, they have lost the human values.
I'm a practicing Christian and I get jabbed all the time. I don't attack and I certainly wouldn't "understand" extremist Christians to kill those who jabbed them.

By this logic, if AndreaCristiano brought a gun to the Tuz community and gunned down everyone that offended, question and downright insulted him and his relgion you would understand why he did it.

There is no logic in this at all, Cheese. Its not a "problem" of the West. You are generalizing us now. If you accuse us of having no human values then its fair for me to say Muslims have too. Is that fair? No, absolutely not. Because of one bad guy making a bad movie all the West has lost Human Values, but because Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all the Muslim world is in the same boat. I get it now.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
#63
Can't you fucking understand, they are not allowed, just like muslims aren't allowed to attack when they feel offended, But the action tha provoke and make a person feel offended is unecessary especially in the context of religion
Freedom of Speech allows the unnecessary and necessary. That's the entire point. We allow anything. That's democracy at it's best. Don't like it? Look away. You are free to. It's a free country (world) afterall.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,927
#64
Yeah, because you don't feel offended becuase it doesn't affect you personnally, your spirituality, like i said before, The prophet for all muslims, whether they are practicant or not, is a red line, and in the majority of case it's a person that's very dear to us more than our families.
So why keep on pushin that button, why keep on provoking and giving these terrorists reasons to attack you.
So it's ok to provoke people to bad things and hide under the umbrella of freedom of speech, that's the problem of the west, they have lost the human values.
You should think it through before posting lines like this.

Doesn't help your argument one bit.


Edit: Aaron, or someone else, feel free to PM me the link of the trailer. My curiousity is getting the better of me now :D
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#65
That movie has potential :lol: Just watch 1:50 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I mean how can anyone be that dumb to take offence of that movie is beyond me, the movie is so stupid overboard stupid it would be actually funny to watch if you have time, like in the morning after a the party died and you just smoked a joint and you are still not sleepy.

On another note from what i could see there were a lot of christians slained, too offensive indeed, good that it's banned doesn't represent the truth at all - we don't fall that easily.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,709
#66
I'm a practicing Christian and I get jabbed all the time. I don't attack and I certainly wouldn't "understand" extremist Christians to kill those who jabbed them.

By this logic, if AndreaCristiano brought a gun to the Tuz community and gunned down everyone that offended, question and downright insulted him and his relgion you would understand why he did it.

There is no logic in this at all, Cheese. Its not a "problem" of the West. You are generalizing us now. If you accuse us of having no human values than its fair for me to say Muslims have too. Is that fair? No, absolutely not. Because of one bad guy making a bad movie all the West has lost Human Values, but because Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all the Muslim world is in the same boat. I get it now.
I don't think Cheese is condoning the actions of the attackers. I mean, I understand why lots of things happen, but that doesn't mean I agree with them.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
#67
Why religion shouldn't be protected ?

And no one answered why no one should talk about the " holocaust " because if he do he's antisemite, or about blacks, he'd be considered racist, but when we are making fun of the Prophete, it's freedom of speech.
Because we should have freedom of speech to express whatever we want.

Why can't you talk about the holocaust? Majority of people do talk about holocaust, Israel today and it's all rosy either. You shouldn't make fun of holocaust because it actually happened some 60-65 years ago, there are still people out there who survived it. Do I need to continue or do you get the point?
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,717
#70
I don't think Cheese is condoning the actions of the attackers. I mean, I understand why lots of things happen, but that doesn't mean I agree with them.
I know he doesn't agree. I think he is trying to mean something else than what he is saying.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
#71
Why it's prohibited to talk about the Holocaust ?? Did we ever made a movie about someone's prophet.

The west makes fun about Islam all the time, no problem but the Prophet is a red line, and it's know but to provoke the muslim nation and make us look like " terrorists " they keep on doing it.
Come on, Cheesio, now it's your feelings talking. Here, we make fun of everything. You should be more angry with how the media and some politicians portray muslims.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
#73
I'm not a fan of works like this, either. They know there's going to be a backlash and it is definitely a provocation, which doesn't mean I want them banned or censured it's just my opinion that it's silly to do stuff like this.

The only thing dumber than this movie and the drawings are the so called "believers" who kill because of satirical works - seriously, don't they have anything better to do than get riled up about than that?
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#75
I'm sorry, but the movie is just :rofl:

Getting insulted by it is the same as a grown man getting insulted by a 3 year old that called him stupid. And the response is equal to that man beating a fucking baby to death five blocks from the incident.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
22,514
#78
I'm a practicing Christian and I get jabbed all the time. I don't attack and I certainly wouldn't "understand" extremist Christians to kill those who jabbed them.

By this logic, if AndreaCristiano brought a gun to the Tuz community and gunned down everyone that offended, question and downright insulted him and his relgion you would understand why he did it.

There is no logic in this at all, Cheese. Its not a "problem" of the West. You are generalizing us now. If you accuse us of having no human values then its fair for me to say Muslims have too. Is that fair? No, absolutely not. Because of one bad guy making a bad movie all the West has lost Human Values, but because Bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 all the Muslim world is in the same boat. I get it now.

No you didn't understand my point, i said the west lost it's human value because they say it's ok to make this movie, because it's freedom of speech, you don't find muslims( the majority anyway) saying what Oussama did was ok. That was my point.

And it's not matter of only Islam, if Buddist feel offended if someone is making fun of one of there reference, it's not ok to do so. It's the same way for all religions.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,717
#80
Anyone see the movie "Team America"?

Was there a backlash when that was made? I don't remember...

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Or don't bother and accept that the western world has something called freedom of speech.
Yep yep.
 

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