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Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
#24
Not sure what the effect would be of bombing holy sites. Either it feeds the terrorists or the islamic states decide enough is enough and take much harsher action against them.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
#25
++ [ originally posted by Tom ] ++
Not sure what the effect would be of bombing holy sites. Either it feeds the terrorists or the islamic states decide enough is enough and take much harsher action against them.
I see it as a part of a build-up that has reached a level where it is somehow uncontrollable.
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
#26
I see it as a bunch of layabout tosspots evading our pitiful asylum system, then living off the fvcking awful state benefit scheme then throwing it all in our faces by blowing up the hand that feeds them in the name of a goddam religion. And thats not right.. if the only way to defeat these motherfvckers is through force then I'd back it 100%. Cvnts!
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
#28
Well obviously but we need to sort out or own shop first before we get involved in the worldwide scheme of things, and we ain't gonna do that if we're letting in radical muslims through the back door every day
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,776
#30
I think the chance of any WW3 happening is severely diminished. Which is why conflicts like civil wars and terrorism are all the rage.

These days, so many nations are economically in bed with each other with global corporations and the governments unwilling to stand up to them that any major nations-upon-nations war is considered more suicidal today than any nuclear deterrent ever was.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
#31
The Prophet of Doom thingy is a shiny example of how ignorant people can exploit fear and mistrust to make a quick buck.

World War 3 is ongoing if you ask me... a conglomerate of limited wars...
 

nedved34

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2002
3,919
#32
++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
I think the chance of any WW3 happening is severely diminished. Which is why conflicts like civil wars and terrorism are all the rage.

These days, so many nations are economically in bed with each other with global corporations and the governments unwilling to stand up to them that any major nations-upon-nations war is considered more suicidal today than any nuclear deterrent ever was.
I don't know man,the hate is growing bigger and bigger,ands those leaders are not wise like you think to think of those things..we have many Saddams and Bin ladens ,and we have those who are thinking to bomb Mecca..everything is posible
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,776
#33
You're so right, snoop. Maybe I'm more of an optimist than I give myself credit for, but I compare the hate scenario in the world today and compare it to WW II 65 years ago, or 200 years ago, or even more... and I don't necessarily get the feeling that our modern day "the world is ending" fears are any different nor worse than those that came generations before us.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,342
#35
Craig Winn's controversial and inflammatory work, Prophet of Doom, begins with this statement: "Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist."


--- Let's talk about someone else: Jesus.
Jesus told the people he was the son of God. Is it likely that Jesus really was God's son? I don't think so. Is it likely that Maria got him without having sex? Hardly.

Is it likely that Jesus was a troublemaker that had a hard time walking between the lines? Yes. Is it likely that Jesus was no more than some ordinary gang leader who decided to create his own religion because it was convenient? Yes. So with Jesus creating uproar and being no more than your everyday thug, was his crucifiction partly justified? Yes.

Please, Jesus is definitely no better than Mohammed.
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
#36
++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
You're so right, snoop. Maybe I'm more of an optimist than I give myself credit for, but I compare the hate scenario in the world today and compare it to WW II 65 years ago, or 200 years ago, or even more... and I don't necessarily get the feeling that our modern day "the world is ending" fears are any different nor worse than those that came generations before us.
Seconded!
 

Chxta

Onye kwe, Chi ya ekwe
Nov 1, 2004
12,088
#37
One thing I'm sure of Seven is that if someone like XT was around nowadays, I'd probably happily participate in the crucifictions.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,776
#38
++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
Craig Winn's controversial and inflammatory work, Prophet of Doom, begins with this statement: "Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist."
Not all unlike the old hateful beliefs that Jews sucked the blood of infant Christians, etc.

Is it likely that Jesus was a troublemaker that had a hard time walking between the lines? Yes. Is it likely that Jesus was no more than some ordinary gang leader who decided to create his own religion because it was convenient? Yes. So with Jesus creating uproar and being no more than your everyday thug, was his crucifiction partly justified? Yes.
While I am not for literal translation of any scriptures, given the importance of the context of a society and its era when it wrote them, I do find it interesting to see more of the analysis of Jesus as a political figure of the times, and not just a religious one. It's an interpretation that most of Christianity seems to miss, and it has real resonance from a historical perspective.

From a third party perspective, Christ was a revolutionary -- a la Che Guevara 1900 years later -- who represented a threat to the religious/political structures of both Rome and Judaism at the time.
 

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