Summer mercato thread 2022-23 season (70 Viewers)

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IlCapitano

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Unbalanced and will never happen under Allegri. Wingers in 4231 with Dybala as AM have to be workhorses.

Besides, Zaniolo is not a winger anymore, not after two ACLs IMO.
So Chiesa and Zaniolo exactly? With Vlahović who also presses and two pivots like Loca and Zakaria? And a phenomenal defensive RB like Danilo?

Ofc it can happen and there is absolutely nothing unbalanced about it.


Not obvious at all
Very obvious. He tried him on the right early on and ever since the second half of that Zenit home game he played on the left whether as a LW or a left sided CF. Right before the ACL both games played on the left even though he had Berna and Rabiot in the lineup who usually played on the left early on
 

Xperd

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Unbalanced and will never happen under Allegri. Wingers in 4231 with Dybala as AM have to be workhorses.

Besides, Zaniolo is not a winger anymore, not after two ACLs IMO.
Exactly. If we're buying him to play on the wing, then please avoid him altogether.

I would avoid him either ways. High risk signing.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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So Chiesa and Zaniolo exactly? With Vlahović who also presses and two pivots like Loca and Zakaria? And a phenomenal defensive RB like Danilo?

Ofc it can happen and there is absolutely nothing unbalanced about it.



Very obvious. He tried him on the right early on and ever since the second half of that Zenit home game he played on the left whether as a LW or a left sided CF. Right before the ACL both games played on the left even though he had Berna and Rabiot in the lineup who usually played on the left early on
Zaniolo and workhorse in the same sentence :lol: He's not capable of giving the same output as Cuadrado does, even in he's 12 years younger.

Pointless to discuss it any further but current Zaniolo is much more like Dybala than a player that you guys remember. There's a reason why Mou plays him next to Abraham in attack, after a few experiments with wing in 4231.

Besides, if he comes it's because Dybala is out. Like for like replacement.
 

Akshen

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Zaniolo and workhorse in the same sentence :lol: He's not capable of giving the same output as Cuadrado does, even in he's 12 years younger.

Pointless to discuss it any further but current Zaniolo is much more like Dybala than a player that you guys remember. There's a reason why Mou plays him next to Abraham in attack, after a few experiments with wing in 4231.

Besides, if he comes it's because Dybala is out. Like for like replacement.
Agree and im also really not conviced by Zaniolos display lately, he doesnt look like the same player.
Would much rather see us going all for SMS and play him as attacking mezzala with standard 433.
 

LiquidPLP

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I think the discussion shouldn’t be ‘or Dybala or Zaniolo’

A club like Juve should be perfectly fine with having two of those players even if one rides the bench. I doubt that money will be the biggest issue
Let's see, maybe you're right. On the other hand I think the Vlahovic deal made people a bit too excited, hopeful and "ambitious".

Luckily it seems like Dybala's contract talk should be resume shortly.
 
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it’s possible it’s unrelated but I wouldn’t say it’s likely. Zaniolo has occupied the same space as Dybala this season. He hasn’t played CM in years. I don’t know howd he play AM with both Dybala and Chiesa around. Seems like a Dybala replacement to me.
Kulu gone, Morata gone in the summer and Berna possibly also gone in the summer. Regardless whether Dybala stays or not, we need to sign attacking players in the summer.
 

IlCapitano

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Zaniolo and workhorse in the same sentence :lol: He's not capable of giving the same output as Cuadrado does, even in he's 12 years younger.

Pointless to discuss it any further but current Zaniolo is much more like Dybala than a player that you guys remember. There's a reason why Mou plays him next to Abraham in attack, after a few experiments with wing in 4231.

Besides, if he comes it's because Dybala is out. Like for like replacement.
Yes, he is not a lazy player at all. He comes back and defends and has the lungs for it.

Yes the reason being they have shitty defensive fullbacks so he needs to play 3atb the acommodate them, not Zaniolo

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Chiesa, Vlahovic and Zaniolo all aren’t lazy players.

Chiesa isn’t very good defensively tho. I don’t get the perception as if we’re fielding primadonna’s with them. The best attack of the last 10 years had Neymar and Messi, or Ronaldo and Benzema. Neither of them are hard workers in defense.
 

IlCapitano

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Compared to the last time we played this formation we are much better suited to it now than then, even with Zaniolo and Chiesa.

They may not be Cuadrado and Mario, but they are not Martial and Dembele either. Also, Loca and Zakaria are much better suited to protect the back 4 than Pjanić and Khedira, physically at least, we will see about tactically.

Vlahović and Danilo are also improvements on Higuain and Alves in that aspect.

A better LB is needed, that is it
 

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I expect Juve to try for Milinkovic Savic next summer. The possibility of buying a great midfielder filters into the environment, so I would not exclude the name of the Serbian.
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GarfielD

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Barcelona president Joan Laporta: “Ousmane Dembélé won’t be here next season, I feel he has an agreement with another club - so it’s gonna be difficult to see him playing again with Barça”.

:scared::scared::scared:

It makes sense... We were after him before, and we for sure are after him now. He rejected every offer this winter so he can come here for free. Lets hope its PSG.
 

spurdo

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Barcelona president Joan Laporta: “Ousmane Dembélé won’t be here next season, I feel he has an agreement with another club - so it’s gonna be difficult to see him playing again with Barça”.

:scared::scared::scared:

It makes sense... We were after him before, and we for sure are after him now. He rejected every offer this winter so he can come here for free. Lets hope its PSG.
Well we never replaced Ramsey this winter, so we are lacking a big cunt on massive wages to sit in J-medical.
 

JuveJay

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Barcelona president Joan Laporta: “Ousmane Dembélé won’t be here next season, I feel he has an agreement with another club - so it’s gonna be difficult to see him playing again with Barça”.

:scared::scared::scared:

It makes sense... We were after him before, and we for sure are after him now. He rejected every offer this winter so he can come here for free. Lets hope its PSG.
I see a PL team, hopefully some shit like Arsenal.
 
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