Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (371 Viewers)

[IlCapitano]

Of course Bro. Everything you wrote is true, because it has already transpired and the results speak for you

The arrogance and delusion. Just wow. We would not suffer one bit?!

Please guide me to your magic book of stats and facts. I'd love to share it with everyone on Tuz.

The only one arrogant is you. If what I said was so stupid it should be easy to refute it with facts, no? Ofc you can't because I'm talking about CL football where Dybala is nonexistent outside of one game. It's not a coincidence he was so dominant early on in the season and he crumbled first time he faced Messi and comparisons started again. He is a striker and a great finisher, not a player who can be the main man and lead the team where the coach can revolve everything around him and as such not indispensable.

I'm not saying get rid of him at all costs - just sell him if a great offer arrives. He has to play as a striker to get the best out of him, but we have too many wingers for that which leaves 4-4-2 as the only natural choice or what Allegri has been doing all year - try with something hybrid and hope Dybala can be out of this world and lead the team. Thus, it's not hard to imagine a situation in which we have better team production in a more natural setup while getting a WC midfielder in exchange. We would weaken our attack in the beginning but in the long run Bernardeschi will be a better player than Dybala.

Also, I don't really care about price comparisons with players like Dembele because -

1. He's not worth that money either
2. Barcelona was desperate and overpayed for him and Coutinho. I don't see many desperate teams out there this summer, but you never know.

 

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[Maddy]

Scz

Ruga--Bena--Chiello

Cuad--Fabinho--Pjanic--Sandro

Dybi--Higgy--Costa​

Nope.

Don't sign Costa. Splash that money on a central midfielder.

Play a two man attack. Dybala is a striker, not a winger.

 

[Xperd]

IMO i see two options,

Sell Pjanic, go for a flat 4-4-2 by signing an all action technical midfielder partnering Matuidi/Can/whoever enabling us to use 2 of Berna, Costa and Cuadrado in the starting lineup regularly which also means enabling Dybala to play closer to goal

Or

Sell Dybala, sign two top midfielders, a promising striker who can takeover from Higuain(Martial)

Or, possibly an unfancied option considering we have many wingers,

Go for a 4-3-1-2, play Costa/Berna as TQ behind Dybala-Higuain and address the midfield weakness.

 

[juve123]

Juventus could reportedly sign Juan Bernat from Bayern Munich this summer, as the German giants target Jonas Hector.

Kwadwo Asamoah looks set to leave the Bianconeri at the end of this season, while Alex Sandro could be sold.

While Leonardo Spinazzola looks set to return from Atalanta, Juve still need reinforcements on the left flank.

According to today’s Tuttosport, a deal for Bernat is possible, as he’s been told he has no future in Bavaria.

The Spaniard’s contract expires in 2019, so he could be available for a lower fee this year, while Bayern are looking at Cologne’s Hector.
http://app.football-italia.net/?referrer=www.football-italia.net#article/footballitalia-119541&menu=news-all

 

[IlCapitano]

Scz

Ruga--Bena--Chiello

Cuad--Fabinho--Pjanic--Sandro

Dybi--Higgy--Costa​

I like this very much but we would need another player similar to Cuadrado who can be great on both ends in that formation. MDS is too defensive and that changes the whole dynamic and effectiveness of this formation. Also, we'd have to look for another LWB since I think there's no chance Sandro stays and I wouldn't give him huge enough of a payrise to convince him to stay since he was so unprofessional and shit this season.

 

[juve123]

Alex sandro replacement bernat the great

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Nope.

Don't sign Costa. Splash that money on a central midfielder.

Play a two man attack. Dybala is a striker, not a winger.

He won't be a winger there. Just a right-sided SS (or inside forward).

Fabinho is the CM that we buy. I chose the two-man mid because the rest of our CMs are lame and shouldn't be starters. (Except maybe Matuidi, but I wouldn't mind sacrificing him for some extra attacking power).

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I like this very much but we would need another player similar to Cuadrado who can be great on both ends in that formation. MDS is too defensive and that changes the whole dynamic and effectiveness of this formation. Also, we'd have to look for another LWB since I think there's no chance Sandro stays and I wouldn't give him huge enough of a payrise to convince him to stay since he was so unprofessional and shit this season.

We'll have to change formation if Cuads is unavailable. Just like we do now when certain players are unavailable

 

[DAiDEViL]

What? Caldara has no international experience, no CL experience and have never played for at big club under immense pressure.

There's a reason Rugani has been the captain at youth level ahead of Caldara.

It can't be backed by hard facts this time, it's just a feeling, hence why i said imo. He looks like he's up to the task when i watch him for Atalanta, physicality and meanness (as PI said) adds to that impression. Imo he has the characteristics of a future leader.

As good and as cool as Rugani might already be, it's something i really miss when we face guys like Suarez or Ronaldo. I just don't trust him against those machines, not until he stops being mr nice guy (Which can be a problem, especially if you field two of those types at once) It might come with age, but it's not a given.

However, Rugani and Caldara look like they could compliment eachother in style similar to Barza and Chiello, which wouldn't exactly be a bad thing, we'll see.

 

[Xperd]

4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1
Szczesny
DeS-Benatia-Chiellini-LB
Cuadrado/Berna-CM-Matuidi/Can-Costa
Dybala-Higuain​

OR

4-3-3
Szczesny
DeS-Benatia-Chiellini-LB
CM-Pjanic-CM
Berna-Higuain(Martial)-Costa​

OR

4-3-1-2
Szczesny
DeS-Benatia-Chiellini-LB
CM-Pjanic-Matuidi
Berna/Costa
Dybala-Higuain​

 

[Maddy]

We'll be so disappointed when we are left with Pellegrini and maybe Cristante

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

3 in defence > 4 with DeSc at RB

 

[Cerval]

I'll be fucken impressed if Marotta can squeeze 80 million out of PSG for Alex Sandro.

They won't be able to cough up that much unless they sell some valuable players due to compliance with FFP

 

[Xperd]

3 in defence > 4 with DeSc at RB

4 CB's(Benatia, Chiellini, Rugani, Caldara) and 1 semi-retired CB(Barzagli)

Considering our injury record, 4 man defense would be the safe option.

 

[IlCapitano]

He won't be a winger there. Just a right-sided SS (or inside forward).

Fabinho is the CM that we buy. I chose the two-man mid because the rest of our CMs are lame and shouldn't be starters. (Except maybe Matuidi, but I wouldn't mind sacrificing him for some extra attacking power).

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We'll have to change formation if Cuads is unavailable. Just like we do now when certain players are unavailable

Agreed, just then you're not getting the most out of Dybala again. 3-4-3 strictly with Cuadrado as RWB is probably the only formation where you get the most out of Dybala, the wingers, give Rugani more playing time, play with two midfielders and don't get destroyed by opposing midfields. Cuadrado provides width so Dybala can stay closer to goal which is imperative for him and he doesn't have to defend too much since there's 3 CBs and a great RWB on both ends.

 

[Xperd]

Pjanic would be a problem in a 3-4-3 unless you're pairing him with prime Vidal.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

4 CB's(Benatia, Chiellini, Rugani, Caldara) and 1 semi-retired CB(Barzagli)

Considering our injury record, 4 man defense would be the safe option.

We can always switch to back 4 if a CB goes down, that's not an obstacle.

Agreed, just then you're not getting the most out of Dybala again. 3-4-3 strictly with Cuadrado as RWB is probably the only formation where you get the most out of Dybala, the wingers, give Rugani more playing time, play with two midfielders and don't get destroyed by opposing midfields. Cuadrado provides width so Dybala can stay closer to goal which is imperative for him and he doesn't have to defend too much since there's 3 CBs and a great RWB on both ends.

Then what?

 

[Maddy]

4 CB's(Benatia, Chiellini, Rugani, Caldara) and 1 semi-retired CB(Barzagli)

Considering our injury record, 4 man defense would be the safe option.

Implicit: A 3-man backline requires an investment in a centreback.

Positive thing 'bout signing Emre Can and moving to a 3-man backline is that he is a capable sweeper/libero and a good option[if we need to chase a goal or two].

 

[IlCapitano]

We can always switch to back 4 if a CB goes down, that's not an obstacle.


Then what?

Sell Dybala and buy SMS.

There is a mutiny against Allegri by a south american clique in the squad?

Mutiny is probably too harsh of a word but I know for a fact that he and Dybala are not speaking at all. Costa only spoke to him in the beginning and Sandro is not too fond of him either. They're apparently dissatisfied how he shuffles his tactics too much (pretty ironic considering Dybala is the reason for that but cool).

 

[Xperd]

Sell Dybala and buy SMS.


Mutiny is probably too harsh of a word but I know for a fact that he and Dybala are not speaking at all. Costa only spoke to him in the beginning and Sandro is not too fond of him either. They're apparently dissatisfied how he shuffles his tactics too much (pretty ironic considering Dybala is the reason for that but cool).

Nice stories

 

[IlCapitano]

Nice stories

Maybe stories but I heard them directly from within the club, so if a certain player's agent is lying or misinterpreting stuff then so am I.

But even if not for them it's not too hard to notice from interactions during games, videos from training, player statements where some guys never mention Allegri whereas others always do etc. And it's not only those 3 guys. Licht is pretty obvious, Marchisio too recently.

I blame it on the players just to be clear, they are never allowed to question the coach.