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[LiquidPLP]

Shitty google translate:
"Juventus is ready to turn the page: from the club (Marotta could return with Giuntoli ds), from the coach Allegri and from the players. Probably the farewell of # CR7 towards Manchester. So watch out for #Pogba ".

 

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[IlCapitano]

Shitty google translate:
"Juventus is ready to turn the page: from the club (Marotta could return with Giuntoli ds), from the coach Allegri and from the players. Probably the farewell of # CR7 towards Manchester. So watch out for #Pogba ".

Glazers are not ever in 10 lives paying Ronaldo's salary. Since Ole came they've cut their wage budget close to a 100m just to pay for Brady and Gronk in Tampa Bay.

Only realistic option for CR imo is PSG if Mbappe leaves.

If we're talking swaps for Pogba it'll be Dybala and/or Arthur/Rabiot/Sandro

 

[Ronn]

Shitty google translate:
"Juventus is ready to turn the page: from the club (Marotta could return with Giuntoli ds), from the coach Allegri and from the players. Probably the farewell of # CR7 towards Manchester. So watch out for #Pogba ".

I remember this fool from Pep saga: a few hours before Sarri’s appointment he was still on Pep train.

 

[JCK]

De Paul and Locatelli to replace Rabiot and Ramsey

Still not enough for our midfield but I guess Donnarumma is more important.

 

[Robee]

Still not enough for our midfield but I guess Donnarumma is more important.

Depends on the definition of 'enough'. That's a serious upgrade. Would I want more? Sure.

 

[JCK]

Depends on the definition of 'enough'. That's a serious upgrade. Would I want more? Sure.

Enough is what is necessary for the club to meet its goals. Unless the goals they announce are not the goals they really want.

 

[Robee]

Enough is what is necessary for the club to meet its goals. Unless the goals they announce are not the goals they really want.

So you'e alluding to the CL? It's not realistic in any way. Scudetto might be within reach with those guys, I'd guess.

 

[U Picciriddu]

I remember this fool from Pep saga: a few hours before Sarri’s appointment he was still on Pep train.

Paganini is a idiot indeed.

 

[JCK]

So you'e alluding to the CL? It's not realistic in any way. Scudetto might be within reach with those guys, I'd guess.

The club has announced at the beginning of every season that it aims to win all the competitions it is participating in. CL or not. I know that the CL requires more than a competitive squad but it remains that a competitive squad is the minimum requirement.

I agree that this midfield upgrade is enough to win the scudetto as long as we don't weaken another part of the team. Because that too has been a trend with Juventus. In addition to this upgrade, a coach with a clue is also important.

 

[Orgut]

Shitty google translate:
"Juventus is ready to turn the page: from the club (Marotta could return with Giuntoli ds), from the coach Allegri and from the players. Probably the farewell of # CR7 towards Manchester. So watch out for #Pogba ".

So basically it says that we moved backwards while trying to move forward so now we try to go forward by going backward?

 

[Cerval]

Shitty google translate:
"Juventus is ready to turn the page: from the club (Marotta could return with Giuntoli ds), from the coach Allegri and from the players. Probably the farewell of # CR7 towards Manchester. So watch out for #Pogba ".

That would be great

 

[Orgut]

74 year old Gasp on the bench! I can see Serie B coming for Juve again

And some of y’all think Lippi is too old to have even a Nedved style role at the club, and here’s Orgut thinking we should have a guy who turns 64 next season coach us for a decade.

Thank fuck, our president isn’t retarded enough to repeat the Sarri mistake. Or is he

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No hiring pensioners to coach the club. Should be a pretty obvious and simple rule.

I said he could last a decade I didnt say he should be brought for a decade.
Also age has nothing to do in his case as he is modern.

Is he a good coach now? yes
Is he going to be a good coach next year? yes
The year after probably yes as well..
What happens afterwards who knows..

This is the same for other coaches including coaches that won silverware such as Conte and Allegri..
Gasperini is a good coach - You can say you dont like him but the reasons you provide arent exactly good reasons...

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More than a declared Juve fan that is bitter to Inter, which he is famous for, he was formed in Juve's academy as a player since childhood and coached the Juve youth teams for a decade.

As you say, his ideas are modern than coaches that 20 years younger than him.

That you cannot name a coach like that doesn't mean that others can't. What is the difference between players being remember without winning trophies but not coaches? Even going by that he cannot just be remembered by Atalanta fans as he made history with Genoa.

Bielsa hasn't won a single thing in european football but he is remembered. Guidolin and Mazzarri with their back 3 surely affected Italian (and world football) more than a random coppa italia trophy would. Should Zeman only be remember by Foggia, Lazio, or Roma fans? his football revolutionized Serie A in the 90s without winning anything at top level. Gasperini is having this same effect. His football is both attractive and effective to many, Atalanta's story of relegation to CL knockouts has a deep effect in Italian football. Now we see Gasperini's "disciples" coming up, like Juric. Same for Sarri, his EL trophy with Chelsea or his scudetto with us is not the core of legacy. The impact of "Sarrismo" in Serie A transcends winning a trophy that you are favored to win, it as seen immediately with Giampaolo and now with De Zerbi for example.

Sarri was trophyless coaching Empoli and Napoli, a normal thing. Got the reigns of Chelsea and won a trophy right away, got Juve and won another trophy. Those trophies don't radically change the level of Sarri. He is who he was. A coach that did great things for smaller teams were winning a trophy in more difficult. With us there was a misfit, the conditions were too different for the relationship to function yet he won his trophy. Put Gasperini in Chelsea or Juve he will surely win a trophy.

Pirlo has a trophy a few months into his coaching career. Does that make him a winner and Gasperini a loser? ridiculous. Give Pirlo Atalanta and lets see him struggle ever more.

Exactly. The only thing we should be worried about is him getting a heart attack and it was way more likely to be Sarri than Gasperini..

As for the whole silverware thing - I definitely agree. Gasperini hasnt won because he was in no position to win anything - He is coaching Atalanta...
Yes he did coach Inter but was sacked very fast.

P.S Gasperini might win this year as we are facing Atalanta in the final and we do have Pirlo as coach afterall...

 

[U Picciriddu]

Gasperini is to one-sided to our coach.

I really started to believe that we should stick to our DNA. We aren’t a team to play full out attacking football and trainers certainly don’t have the time to drill those tactics into our players as it takes years. Gasp had the time to build at Atalanta.

We need a tactical flexible coach who plays attacking when possible, but doesn’t give a fuck if we need to defend as long as we win.

Guardiola would probably fail at us, you just see it happening. Zidane, Allegri, Conte type of coaches fit us a lot better.

 

[Orgut]

Gasperini is to one-sided to our coach.

I really started to believe that we should stick to our DNA. We aren’t a team to play full out attacking football and trainers certainly don’t have the time to drill those tactics into our players as it takes years. Gasp had the time to build at Atalanta.

We need a tactical flexible coach who plays attacking when possible, but doesn’t give a fuck if we need to defend as long as we win.

Guardiola would probably fail at us, you just see it happening. Zidane, Allegri, Conte type of coaches fit us a lot better.

It is true he had time with Atalanta but I do not agree with the DNA thing.
The team have players - players possess mentality and attributes that need to be exploited.
If we have a very attacking type of team we will be able to attack very well and if we dont then we dont.

Gasperini alone would not make us champions as he lacks some players for his style of play. Attacking wise I think he could do with what we currently have

 

[zizinho]

Yes please

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Wenger is a legendary coach in football. You guys have such goldfish memories lol.

If not for Arsenal slashing their budget due to their new stadium, they could've dominated English football for more number of years than they actually did.

TuttoUdinese?

 

[Post Ironic]

Gasperini fanbois. Yikes. I’ve seen it all now.

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Bielsa has been a mythical coach for at least a decade, you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Would you call Arsene Wenger a winner? Wenger will be remembered, but definitely not for winning a lot of trophies lol.

Bielsa? Wat? I never hear his name mentioned at all. And he’ll quickly pass out of memory once he retires. You can’t be talking about active coaches. I know the names of dozens of nobodies currently coaching. But coaches who don’t win, don’t stand the test of time. They aren’t remembered. Simple as that.

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Linked to winning titles? Sure, there's an undeniable link there. Depends on winning titles? Nah, there are plenty of coaches that'll be remembered for their style rather than trophies won. You type "best football coaches" in google and most coaches there have won a lot, but there is also Wenger, Bielsa among the top results.

Again. No. And Wenger literally had an undefeated season with his “invincibles” and that is why he will be remembered in the future. Because his style actually succeeded. Guys like Bielsa who won fuck all with their “style” won’t be remembered. History remembers the winners. Bringing up active coaches or those who have actually won stuff is rather disingenuous.

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Can't speak for others but for example I remember Guidolin for the work he did at Udinese and not for the CI win with Vicenza. Zeman, Bielsa, Pulis and Allardyce are some examples of pretty well known coaches that have never won anything. The former two are known for their attacking play style and the latter two for their long ball style and the ability to keep teams up.

Obviusly the top top coaches coaching the biggest and the best teams leave the biggest mark in history. However if you expect me to remember every random coach that has won the CI or the FA Cup from lets say 95 onwards just because they won something you're out of luck. Human memory is a much more random than that.

None of those coaches will be remembered in twenty years. Only the top coaches winning trophies will be remembered. You can’t seriously be suggesting that guys like Guidolin and Bielsa and Pulis are going to be remembered in 20 years. Only the historically great winners are remembered. It’s really not an argument, not sure why you all are obsessed with making out like you can be remembered historically as a coaching great while never winning anything. You can’t. Just like every random coach who wins a trophy or two won’t be remembered either. Guys like Lippi, Ferguson, Sacchi, Trapatoni, Heynckes, Allegri, Zidane, Klopp, etc... those guys will be remembered. Gasperini will be forgotten in a decade if he doesn’t start winning trophies.

 

[X Æ A-12]

in: De Paul, Locatelli, Gosens, Luis Muriel, Romagnoli, Donnarumma, Perin, Luca Pellegrini

out: Chiellini, Buffon, Alex Sandro, Bernardeschi, Ramsey, Rabiot, Douglas Costa and CR7

Donnarumma

Cuadrado - Bonucci - De Ligt - Gosens

Mckennie - Locatelli - De Paul

Chiesa - Dybala - Muriel

sub: Perin, Danilo, Demiral, Romagnoli, Luca Pellegrini, Bentancur, Arthur, Rovella, Fagioli, Morata, Kulusevski

 

[Orgut]

in: De Paul, Locatelli, Gosens, Luis Muriel, Romagnoli, Donnarumma, Perin, Luca Pellegrini

out: Chiellini, Buffon, Alex Sandro, Bernardeschi, Ramsey, Rabiot, Douglas Costa and CR7

Donnarumma

Cuadrado - Bonucci - De Ligt - Gosens

Mckennie - Locatelli - De Paul

Chiesa - Dybala - Muriel

sub: Perin, Danilo, Demiral, Romagnoli, Luca Pellegrini, Bentancur, Arthur, Rovella, Fagioli, Morata, Kulusevski

If its rumors+fantasy football then why not
Donnarumma
Cuadrado Varane De Ligt Gosens
Mck Locatelli Pogba
Chiesa Haaland Dembele

 

[GordoDeCentral]

in: De Paul, Locatelli, Gosens, Luis Muriel, Romagnoli, Donnarumma, Perin, Luca Pellegrini

out: Chiellini, Buffon, Alex Sandro, Bernardeschi, Ramsey, Rabiot, Douglas Costa and CR7

Donnarumma

Cuadrado - Bonucci - De Ligt - Gosens

Mckennie - Locatelli - De Paul

Chiesa - Dybala - Muriel

sub: Perin, Danilo, Demiral, Romagnoli, Luca Pellegrini, Bentancur, Arthur, Rovella, Fagioli, Morata, Kulusevski

Gossens is not a competent back 4 LB unfortunately, muriel doesn't even start for atalanta, don't even get me started on dybala.

Emerson de ligt bonucci alaba

Merino arthur locatelli

Cuad cr7 chiesa​

 

[juve123]

If its rumors+fantasy football then why not
Donnarumma
Cuadrado Varane De Ligt Gosens
Mck Locatelli Pogba
Chiesa Haaland Dembele

Gosens is close to joining leciester for 25 million euros