Summer mercato 2015 (65 Viewers)

[Vlad]

no, im simply not trying to be "rational" as you do and claim every shitty player someone mentions would instantly start for Juve. also, there is no need to post me vidoes of every player you try to debate that would start for Juve (you tend to do that every time, like with Cazorla and some other players) as i already know what kind of player Ramsey is, i watched him play believe it or not, otherwise i wouldnt say hes overrated. im not gonna base my opinion on players on FIFA ratings or what other people think. the only thing i base my opinion on is the pitch. Ramsey has never impressed me, for some reason he is very overrated by most people and you too i see, and at the same time, you underrate our own players to justify overrating him.

in your whole post, you havent mentioned one argument as to why Ramsey is even in Khediras category, yet alone on Marchisios (a player that had a bigger role on a better team in a much better midfield in a better league last season). Khedira was starting for Madrid for years. he was one of the best german NT performers 2010-2013/14, their 2nd best player in 2010 and best player in 2012, until when he got injured and lost his place in Madrid to WC players in Modric and Kroos. a fit Khedira is a much better player than Ramsey, but ofcourse you wouldnt notice that as you only care for how flashy a player is.

Pereyra has proven himself in a CL finalist last year. he was literally a starter and has shown in his 1st season here what a player he is with all these injuries and being ready to step up whenever needed. Pereyra has already surpassed him in performance level, not by much though, as i expect him to do in this coming season with a starter role and more freedom. also, i never said Sturaro is better, i said he is potentially better, which is not really a stretch like saying he can potentially be better than Pirlo, as Ramsey is not exactly a top player.

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i cant see over who Ramsey would start here but go on, delude yourself that youre a "rational" poster by overrating players of other clubs and underrating our own

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weak arguments > no arguments

Gotta say Osman has always been ridiculous with his youtube videos, trying to hard to prove of how good certain player is, with sole purpose to underrate every Juve player and insanely overrate every other scrub out there.

 

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[zizinho]

How ironic that the poster who posts the most biased, delusional, ridiculous, void of any rationality posts would say something like this. A few years ago you'd have been eaten alive in this forum. You're lucky mods are heavily moderating the place these days, which is not bad at all, on the contrary, people should be able to voice whatever opinions they have, even delusional people such as yourself.

examples please. if you say the Ramsey posts, then im gonna call you the same. a few years ago the forum was probably shit with more "rational" posters like you and Osman. im glad i wasnt here back then in that case

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Gotta say Osman has always been ridiculous with his youtube videos, trying to hard to prove of how good certain player is, with sole purpose to underrate every Juve player and insanely overrate every other scrub out there.

exactly. and then he tried to explain with an essay what type of player the one we argue about is, which is absolutely irrelevant to the subject of what player is better

 

[Xperd]

I would start Ramsey over Khedira no questions asked.
That isn't even remotely in doubt.

 

[zizinho]

I would start Ramsey over Khedira no questions asked.
That isn't even remotely in doubt.

you would start the inferior player? interesting

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i just wanna throw it out there than any attempt to steer subjects to petty 'gang' squabbles will earn the perpetrator infractions

 

[Xperd]

i just wanna throw it out there than any attempt to steer subjects to petty 'gang' squabbles will earn the perpetrator infractions

I was actually about to mention u in regards to that

 

[lgorTudor]

should never have sold Vidal. none of this would have happened

not selling Vidal + not buying AM = 8/10 mercato
exchanging Vidal for Götze = 9/10 mercato
exchanging Vidal and Coman for Götze = 7/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Draxler and Sandro = 7/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Draxler = 5/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Sap/Cuad/Vas/anybody = 2/10 mercato

 

[electricRoo]

you would start the inferior player? interesting

I would start him too. A player on crutches won't be able to run too fast.

 

[Xperd]

Still about 29 days left in the mercato.

I have hope.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

not selling Vidal + not buying AM = 8/10 mercato
exchanging Vidal for Götze = 9/10 mercato
exchanging Vidal and Coman for Götze = 7/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Draxler and Sandro = 7/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Draxler = 5/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Sap/Cuad/Vas/anybody = 2/10 mercato

With the lack of quality options out there i think even the last option is optimistic

 

[Lion]

should never have sold Vidal. none of this would have happened

r u going to change ur name?

 

[DAiDEViL]

ill answer later, i have to go out @Osman @Fred

@DAiDEViL this is what i meant

i see... Big Ram

 

[Badass J Elkann]

r u going to change ur name?

maybe. maybe not

 

[Ocelot]

@romeoagresti has denied the rumors linking Westermann with Juventus.

Imagine HW4 at Juve @lgorTudor @DAiDEViL

 

[lgorTudor]

Imagine HW4 at Juve @<a href="http://forum.juventuz.org/member.php?u=19661" target="_blank">lgorTudor</a> @<a href="http://forum.juventuz.org/member.php?u=19729" target="_blank">DAiDEViL</a>

tuz after HW4 signing


can't be worse CB than Caceres @Fr3sh

 

[DAiDEViL]

Imagine HW4 at Juve @lgorTudor @DAiDEViL

HW4

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can't be worse CB than Caceres @Fr3sh

watch your mouth!

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Still about 29 days left in the mercato.

I have hope.

Plenty of time indeed. Although what scares me are the choices. It seems most great players around are staying where they are so I'm not really looking forward to the month ahead.

 

[Xperd]

Plenty of time indeed. Although what scares me are the choices. It seems most great players around are staying where they are so I'm not really looking forward to the month ahead.

Think the mercato will explode in a week or two.

EPL teams will make their usual panic buys and we'll closely be monitoring the situations of some players at these clubs.

I am still keeping optimistic about this situation.

 

[waschbeer]

not selling Vidal + not buying AM = 8/10 mercato
exchanging Vidal for Götze = 9/10 mercato
exchanging Vidal and Coman for Götze = 7/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Draxler and Sandro = 7/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Draxler = 5/10 mercato
selling Vidal + buying Sap/Cuad/Vas/anybody = 2/10 mercato

and selling Vidal + buying a lb and playing Dybala or Pereyra as amc = 4/10 mercato

 

[Siamak]

both Pereyra and Khedira are better than him. Sturaro potentially too. and he is definitely not similar to Marchisio level as you said in your previous post, thats an insult

sturaro and khedira would be as DM khedira has been out of the game so long he is still out of form but yes Ramsey isnt that player we want Now we need to bring in a trequartista or quality AM Im not sure if pereyra is good enough just yet and , we are still lacking in attack and creativity I think it'll just take some time Preferably I'd rather we keep trying to sign gotze or draxler who are both quite a few years younger, and quality player that we need To rebuild a cohesive team the rebuild a Cohesive team considering We've lost Pirlo, Vidal and Tevez